Nick Rout wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:05:43 +1200
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ethernet? I think not. see andrew's reply, been covered before etc, not really
on though.
Talked to the guys as City Link about this... their comments were just
go for it... issues are over rated, worst case you'll blow a leap up.
V's the cost of the protection it's not worth it.
What about the possibilty/probability of seeing what my neighbours are
downloading, their ISP mail passwords etc etc.
That doesn't seem be worry my neighbours. If it worries you then you
should use VPN back to your ISP. I talked to the ISP about this and
they said they already had a product. I'm sure there are pleanty of NZ
providers happy to help with this, and if there aren't then there are
any number os.
if you want to get legal advice in this proposal you will have to pay for it,
or visit legislation.govt.nz for an overview of the statutes and regulations.
Actually there's a bunch of people in Wellington I can talk to about
that... I looked into it about 3 years ago.
10mbit/ConnectedUsers.
Yes, for the first user. Once you have 40 houses you really only have a 256
kb/s connection if everyone is using it.
That's still some 6 or 7 times better than any of them are getting down
there right now.
But if one of those users is a heavy user of, say, bittorrent, then the other
users probbaly have a zero b/s connection.
This is the reason I proposed full linux systems in the nodes and not
just basic wifi aps. If people are going to load the network then we'll
just have to turn on some shapping.
hmmm i think this may be where it falls down. The $750 is shared between the
users, depends how many people are on as to how expensive it is.
Yes, there's incentive for everyone in the suburb to get everyone else
in the suburb using it.
However the $4/G is what each individual must pay to make it work, either for their own bandwidth, or as an (unfair) shared cost.
Oh, user pays is the way to go I think.
Now on ADSL I may only be getting 256k,
Oh, no argument there... but these people don't have a choice of ADSL,
so it's not even relivant.
> but i am paying roughly $1 per G - $40 for a monthly limit of 40G.
Lucky you live in a place where you can get cheaper data. Thou, you do
also have to pay $45 for a telephone line as well... how much use of
that line do you make?
$40 + $45 is $85.
> How can your system get me the internet at less than $4 per G if that
is what you are being charged?
It won't. But then I thought you were living in Lyttleton and not RHR?
Speaking of which, where is the infrastructure cost?
Sheets 2 & 3 -
http://www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz/StaticContent/RHRNodeConcept/RHRCostings.htm
Billing,
Billing I still have to sort out.
accounting for bandwidth,
As for billing...
helpdesk,
You don't get one. It gets installed and it runs. If you need a
helpdesk then I guess there's an oportunity for local IT consultants.
R&M,
This is why I propose wired and wireless. It's just like any service
running accross your property... If you had garden irrigation and you
put your spade thru it then you can either fix it yourself or call a
plumber.
signups,
Good point on that one. I sign up fee will have to be considered to pay
for someones time to do the configuration unless the data providers can
be convinced to do that or it can be automated...
However, having said this, what is the sign up process... buy an
antenna, up it up, turn it on. Browse to a page, pay your account,
someone has to verify your payment and authorise your connection.
Nodes would require an installer - cost of that is considered - see Sheet 2.
signoffs when people move, debt collection,
Payment in advance is the answer I think. If people leave, it's just
like letting your prepay phone laps.
interest costs when you have to pay the provider but the customers haven't paid
you?
As above.
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