Thanks for that comprehensive info Volker, hopefully I'll get a chance
to check it out tonight.

Regards, Bryce Stenberg.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:36 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Connect to Internet - where's the dial-up button?
> 
> > i'll think you'll find suse has its own dialler, iirc it is called
> > ktinternet or similar. no doubt volker will pop up soon and tell us.
> 
> Yeah I get the hint ;)
> 
> For distros other than SUSE, kppp is probably the correct answer for
> controlling the dialling. For setting up the modem it's distro
dpendent.
> 
> For SUSE, you forget that you ever heard anything about kppp, and use
> kinternet. In any case, configure your modem properly in yast first -
> dial-on-demand, user name, modem control strings if necessary (several
> ISPs require the "stupid mode" setting for making a successsful
> connection (this is a flag which yast sets for wvdial). If you also
have
> ethernet, make sure to tick "replace default route", this ensures that
> dialup takes priority over ethernet (adsl) when dialled up (eg when
adsl
> is down).
> 
> The dialling is initiated in any case by smpppd (SUSE meta ppp
daemon),
> which is a daemon collecting system state and user commands. When
> requested, smpppd starts pppd (which in turn starts wvdial for dealing
> with the ISP login - none of this chat script cr*p in SUSE since about
> '99). cinternet is a front-end to smpppd, kinternet likewise for the
KDE
> panel. In terms of functionality, the kinternet/smpppd construction
> leaves anything else I've seen for stone dead. Clicking on the panel
> icon starts dialling, clicking again hangs up; no effect for
> demand-dialling, but kinternet allows to disable demand-dialling
> altogether (like when you want to make sure not to spend money).
Trouble
> connecting? Right-click on the panel icon, select "show log". None of
> this: become root (is that edible?), start your favourite editor
(what's
> an editor?), look at /var/log/messages (there's no \var\lg\mssges -
what
> do I do now?). kinternet will also ask for the dialup password if you
> deliberately didn't configure it in yast. Oh yes, most importantly,
> kinternet handles any number of modems and ISPs with zero trouble.
> 
> Remember that kinternet only controls the dial-up, but not the
dialling
> etc, so if your modem / internet connection /etc isn't working
properly,
> the log is the only real use you'll get out of kinternet. The log is
> however the primary source for trouble-shooting. Run yast to fix
things,
> "configure modem" or similar from somewhere in kinternet.
> 
> Volker
> 
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