On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:28:52 +0200
chris bayley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Who amongst us has caught the bug moved from Gentoo to Unbuntu ???
> (offline if your too shy to admit to it ; )
> 
> I have been a die-hard 'Gentooey' for 3 years now and enjoyed most if
> not every moment of it, but I am find my Gentoo increasingly demanding
> to manage.
> Despite the tremendous work going on by developers, to ameliorate the
> package system, I am finding increasingly hard to stay current. I run a
> cron job to keep up with nightly updates but if something 'borks' and I
> don't check the update logs for a few days then a backlog of packages
> builds up which becomes hard to clear especially with the number of
> builds which bork in that list! e.g. I have been away for three weeks
> and on my return I find 300 packages needing update, 3 days later I have
> built 18 and 4 or 5 have borked requiring intervention thus redering
> futile any attempt at automatic updates - at this rate I the list will
> get longer not shorter!
> I exeperiance a constant bleed of packages into my keywords file
> (marking them as unstable) which now numbers over 500 packages, in order
> the enable some wanted functionality or achieve compatability with some
> stable package. This wouldn't bother me too much if there was some way
> to weed them out as the required package version goes stable, but it
> seems to be another of those manual processes which one never has time for.
> 
> My installation has come to dominate most of the 40G hd on my laptop,
> and while it somewhat aged and contains nearly every package I have ever
> had need for I am sure that a fresh 700Mb install would probably do half
> of what I need today.
> 
> So to those of you who have spent time as a Gentoo patriot, and now find
> yourselves in Ubuntu land, what is you experiance of the move ??? what
> lead you to jump camp ??
> 
> 
> : )
> Chris BAYLEY

Splitter! Actually I am experiencing a bit of the same with gentoo. But you 
don't have to install every update you know!

I recently installed freebsd on my laptop as an experiment and advise:

1. it is very smooth, many of the features of gentoo. Slightly less control but 
more stable, and more up to date in terms of software versions. In terms of a 
desktop, it looks and smells just like linux. 

2. not sure yet about hardware support, everything seems to work on the laptop, 
but it doesn't have any tv cards or other esoterica.

3. there is a choice of precompiled or compile your own or mix and match.

4. It takes a while getting used to their versions of the command line tools - 
even ls is different in some small subtle ways.

I don't think you will persuade me to ubuntu, it has some advantages, but the 
last upgrade, and problems people seemed to experience were offputting.

I abandoned gentoo on my mythtv box, installed knoppmyth, based on debian, it 
"just works" - fan damn tastic.

A freebsd installfest anyone?

Nick.

PS, on a personal note, are you still in France - we are planning to be there 
for a few weeks next year. Maybe see you sometime?
 

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