Christopher Sawtell wrote:
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 08:54, Steve Holdoway wrote:
Does this and related threads now hold the record for the longest ever on
the CLUG list (:
At 245 + ( I think I might have deleted a few messages ) I believe so.
Things have changed.
Noobs used to be belittled until they shut up, pretty darn quickly -
remember "RTFM". But because the Klub Klique elite held no meetings for
at least seven months, then gave up on Installfests entirely, there was
no real way new users could get effective support at the level they
required.
So along came GNU/Linux Users and kicked Klug's arse - in the same way
Berkeley Unix kicked MIT's arse, and GNU(/Linux) kicked BSD's arse, ..ad
infinitum. - You would think with all this arse-kicking going on, that
we'd have no time for contributing to quality software; but to the
contrary, this high-grade competition is probably the main constructive
dynamic to our culture (focusing M$ arse-kicking).
The upshot for Klug newbies has been not only restoration of monthly
support meetings, but their doubling in frequency through addition of
BSD/GNU/Linux/GNOME centred workshops. This is where you go to avoid the
halfway house that is pseudo-Windoze (Klug Kulture). But to undermine
that choice reaction has thrown out the rtfM and is now doing everything
possible to be nice and supportive to newbies - like it always should have.
In reaching out to KBSD in order to dump (GNU/)Linux, the 'Klug
leadership' has shown that it cannot, and never did, speak for the core
culture whose title it assumed. The K-monopoly is over, and Klug's
adjustment to *nix catholicism just needs to be completed - with a fully
open and accepting attitude (to *desktops). It is doing well enough for
Alan now, but many others have long been left in Klug's waKe.
Take it slowly and simply. We are here to help you learn *nix; all of it.
Alan's modem ppp may well need this to hold the connection, eventually:
$sudo adduser zl3kr dip
But YMMV - I do not know for sure. I left KDE behind at the same time as
my Winmodem. (GNU/)Linux started making sense after that.
hth
--
Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services <http://www.infohelp.co.nz> on virus-free
GNU/Linux
