Hi Nick
yes had looked up error 10 thanks... and yes with minicom it asks for the entry of both user ID and password ans when entered it refuses authentication, I repeated this 3 times with same results and of course on the second and third time I made darned sure that it was being entered correctly(and in lower case). I more or less gathered it wasnt talking at all under kppp and dont know where to start looking, do the first commands come from the options file or is it still running from the modem commands file?? As to why it will not accept the user name and password...its got me puzzled because wqhen Andrew was here and tried with his modem it logged on ok (I think on the second try)........ that was using my name and password.

Alan

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