On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:05:23 +1200
Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Nick
> yes had looked up error 10 thanks... 

good, we taught you how to look up the man page then. Thats a good start to 
your linux career!

> and yes  with minicom it asks for 
> the entry of both user ID and password ans when entered it refuses 
> authentication, I repeated this 3 times with same results and of course 
> on the second and third time I made darned sure that it was being 
> entered correctly(and in lower case).

So you can actually type the stuff and it is echoed back?


> I more or less gathered it wasnt talking at all under kppp and  dont 
> know where to start looking,
> do the first  commands come from the options file or is it still running 
> from the modem commands file??

Not quite sure what you mean here. One of the problems is that pppd (the 
software that actually makes the connection and which is at the back of kppp 
and wvdial) gets its options from more than one place. This really confused me 
when I was trying to figure it out early in my linux career. One howto would 
say "put the option here' another would say "put the option there" - they all 
came to the same thing in the end.

Anyway, your computer will now be giving pppd options from /etc/ppp/options, 
/etc/ppp/peers/kppp, any built in options in kppp or wvdial and those are a 
conglomeration of everything that this kind list has been suggesting for the 
last few weeks. That quite likely results in a mess.

I'd be tempted to get rid of every config file touched by kppp and/or wvdial, 
install them again, and start again. Unfortunately just uninstalling and 
reinstalling won't always get rid of old config files - the system figures that 
you probably want to keep your finely crafted config file... which is not 
necessarily a bad thing.

> As to why it will not accept the user name  and password...its got me 
> puzzled because wqhen Andrew was here and tried with his modem it logged 
> on ok (I think on the second try)........ that was using my name and 
> password.
> 
> Alan
> 

I dunno. I would like to have a play and observe this stuff for myself. I have 
been too busy to come and see you myself lately, but I really want to be at the 
next meeting.


One thing, I think you have two computers, and each of them can access the net, 
when in windows? As a temporary work around, why not activate Internet 
Connection Sharing on one of the windows computers, network the linux machine 
to it and get the linux machine on the net like that? Its not the sort of thing 
i normally suggest you understand, but its a means to an end.

Of persuade the better half that you need adsl (but do check the adsl modem out 
for linux suitability first!)

IMHO the widespread adoption of broadband, particularly among geeks, is one of 
the reasons why setting up dialup doesn't have the priority among developers 
that it used to have, and why the demand for modems that "just work" isn't high 
enough for manufacturers to prioritise it. So if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!

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