Don Gould wrote:
Ben Devine wrote:
today. Sadly, I feel that CLUG, has lost its way and has turned into a
bit of a 'troll' fest.
I agree.
FWIW, I never knew the term 'troll' until I read about it here. Over
time, I took it to mean 'an M$ user who acts on-list to rubbish
gnu/Linux, so has double reason not to be here'. Think about it.
Do we have a better definition?
Ben's highlighting of the profile asks us to review the recent - less
clear - meaning ascribed to 'troll'; unless we want to count
'light-hearted community banter' on the subject as somehow useful.
Personally, I prefer lower bandwidth noise, purer signal - which is what
we get from (much) less pontificating (sig excuse creation?).
How about this for a basic (unstated) rule: 'if you don't know the
subject under examination, please keep quiet'? - I'm sure that's most of
what other people are doing.
So yes. Tedious OT drivel is a pain. - Get rid of it / show restraint.
(ISP experiences rate the same, imho, but 'majority rules' there.)
Personally I post on clug as a way to keep OUR community a float.
Unnecessary. & btw, clug is a community group meeting - derived from
this (bigger group) list; work for clug is more what's needed, and more
human.
I'm not only looking for answers (hell, that's what Google is for) I'm
looking to communicate what I'm up to, where I'm at and leave the mark
that I exist if others want to pick my brains.
'Push technology'? (I have a backlog of replies, that peace holds back.)
Why advocacy work gets nowhere, I've realised, is that *nix/Net is a
'pull technology' of quality - so that everyone capable of using it
already knows &/or does (use it).
This stark contrast is your main problem in contributing.
We are not an 'encounter group' for disorientated misc.tech.vics.
(And would anyone set up such a forum?)
Frankly I wonder if it's time to wrap the mailing list up and migrate to
a web based forum so you can manage it better.
Check out the list archives to see there's many familiar names still
here, since (before) 2000. Their 'no comment' is comment enough, I'd say.
See: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=WP_ForumRules
When I'm setting up forums sites these days I just suggest that people
adopt the WP rule set rather than writing their own. Why? Because it
works.
So does/did this venue, given a chance.
The temptation to ask 'who cares?' (about your opinion) is very great.
But I'll read the link..
hth
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Rik
