On 07/05/07, Chris AKA personthingy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > One assumes logging
into the network is a normal part of the days start up
procedure?
:)

It's only the normal part of the procedure for a mobile machine that
might be in several different networks throughout its life, or
possibly a shared machine that needs to be on different networks for
different people.

A static machine probably can just sign up to the network once per
boot, which is not the same as when a user logs in. In this case you
can put the wireless options directly into /etc/network/interfaces
(see an example on the Voyage wiki site, which is a type of Debian
http://wiki.voyage.hk/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=how_do_i_get_bcm43xx_working_with_wpa
)

The gnome-network-manager is inherently a per-user desktop tool. I
have an Ubuntu machine here set up the same way; every time the user
logs in the keyring needs to have an additional password. I can see
why it's like that, but OS X has a directly similar "keyring" feature,
that doesn't ask for an additional password - because it's hooked up
to the same authentication as the login process itself.

The desktop tool for network management is quite nice and visible, but
the keychain needs to integrate better with the login :-)

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