but firefox and thunderbird still hang while trying to connect :(

> yep, the DNS Server is now set back to 10.1.1.1 despite me having
> previously set it to 192.168.1.1
>
> i can ping 10.1.1.1 and www.google.co.nz successfully.
>
> nslookup www.google.co.nz 10.1.1.1 gives:
>
> Server:  10.1.1.1
> Address: 10.1.1.1#53
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name:  www.google.co.nz
> Address: 72.14.253.103
>
>
> Thanks
> Matt
>
>
>
>> On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 06:15:14PM +1200, Matthew Whiting wrote:
>>> Results of ifconfig eth0:
>>>
>>> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:20:62:47:D4
>>> inet addr:192.168.1.102 Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>>> inet6 addr: fe80::213:20ff:fe62:47d4/64 Scope:Link
>>> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500 Metric:1
>>> RX packets:38 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>>> TX packets:70 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>>> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>>> RX bytes:5320 (5.1KiB)  TX bytes:6399 (6.2 KiB)
>>
>> The IP address 192.168.1.102 is completely acceptable since it is part
>> of
>> the
>> network range of the LAN you appear to be in.
>>
>>>
>>> and route gives:
>>> Kernel IP routing table
>>> Destination   Gateway     Genmask       Flags   Metric   Ref   Use
>>> Iface
>>> 192.168.1.0   *           255.255.255.0 U       0        0     0
>>> eth0
>>> default       192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0       UG      0        0     0
>>> eth0
>>
>> This is OK too.  It just says that you have one network on ethernet 0
>> and
>> it
>> is the default path for all network traffic.
>>
>>> cat /etc/resolv.conf:
>>> nameserver 10.1.1.1
>>
>> Back to this again?  Had you manually changed this to 192.168.1.1?  If
>> so,
>> then when you went "ifup eth0" I suspect that the DHCP server issued you
>> with this nameserver and dhcpcd overwrote your old /etc/resolv.conf
>>
>> Can you ping 10.1.1.1?
>>
>>> traceroute:
>>> bash: traceroute: command not found
>>
>> Gah!  You need the package "traceroute" (can you believe it).
>>
>> Try this and post the results:
>>
>> nslookup www.google.co.nz 10.1.1.1
>>
>> If nslookup isn't installed then try this:
>>
>> dig @10.1.1.1 www.google.co.nz
>>
>> Basically, either one of those commands will tell you whether 10.1.1.1
>> is
>> really a nameserver that you can reach.  If you don't get an IP for
>> www.google.co.nz, then try the same commands but with 192.168.1.1
>>
>> If 192.168.1.1 is able to resolve www.google.co.nz then you need to
>> console to your Linksys and try to work out why it is issuing the DNS
>> server 10.1.1.1 instead of
>> 192.168.1.1
>>
>> Please post the outputs anyway.
>>
>> I wonder whether you have two DHCP servers on the LAN since I think you
>> mentioned connecting a Linksys to another ADSL router.  I might be
>> mistaken,
>> but that could lead to some real confusion.  Anyway, if one host is
>> working
>> reliably and the other is not then it's harder to blame the network
>> itself
>> (but not an impossible scenario given the variability of OSs.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Michael.
>>
>>> cheers
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> > I stand by the config I posted earlier.
>>> >
>>> > Also, the manner of the problem you have reported could still be
>>> explained
>>> > by misconfiguration in Firefox.  Is is possible that Firefox is
>>> attempting
>>> > to contact a Proxy server?
>>> >
>>> > If you follow the instructions in my previous email then we can at
>>> least
>>> > eliminate or prove some simple network problems.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Michael.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 05:35:17PM +1200, Matthew Whiting wrote:
>>> >> Before applying any of your suggestions after trying a few things my
>>> >> /etc/network/interfaces file now contains the following. How should
>>> I
>>> >> proceed to edit this?
>>> >> -------------------
>>> >> auto lo
>>> >> iface lo inet loopback
>>> >>
>>> >> mapping hotplug
>>> >> script grep
>>> >> map eth0
>>> >>
>>> >> iface dsl-provider inet ppp
>>> >> provider dsl-provider
>>> >>
>>> >> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>>> >>
>>> >> auto eth0
>>> >> -------------------
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:47:07PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2007 12:38 pm, Matthew Whiting wrote:
>>> >> >> >>> connecting fine using this apple iBook. No such luck with my
>>> >> desktop
>>> >> >> >>> pc..
>>> >> >> >>> Its an xtra broadband connection and my machine is connected
>>> >> >> physically
>>> >> >> >>> to
>>> >> >> >>> a port on a linksys wireless router which is connected to a
>>> >> d-link
>>> >> >> adsl
>>> >> >> >>> router. What would be appropriate diagnostic tools to use to
>>> suss
>>> >> >> out
>>> >> >> >>> what
>>> >> >> >>> is happening? Firefox tries to connect and times out. I'm not
>>> >> >> familiar
>>> >> >> >>> enough with linux network admin tools to better determine the
>>> >> >> problem..
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> What is the output of
>>> >> >> >> ifconfig  -a
>>> >> >> >> route -n
>>> >> >> >> cat /etc/resolv.conf
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > ifconfig gives a bunch of details for eth0, lo and sit0. not
>>> sure
>>> >> what
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> > look for here?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I was looking for the output in relation to eth0, which is the
>>> forst
>>> >> >> ethernet device. Posting the output of the command would have
>>> been
>>> >> fine.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > route -n gives:
>>> >> >> > Destination  Gateway      Genmask        Flags  Metric  Ref
>>> Use
>>> >> >> Iface
>>> >> >> > 192.168.1.0  0.0.0.0      255.255.255.0  U      0       0    0
>>> >> eth0
>>> >> >> > 0.0.0.0      192.168.1.1  0.0.0.0        UG     0       0    0
>>> >> eth0
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Weirdly there is no 127. route, but otherwise looks fine.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Can't remember ever seeing 127.0.0.1 in a "route -n".  Maybe
>>> you're
>>> >> > thinking of "route -nC" Nick.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Anyway, the absence of 127.0.0.0 is not important here.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > cat /etc/resolve.conf gives:
>>> >> >> > nameserver 10.1.1.1
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> clearly wrong, your dns server won't be 10.1.1.1.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Not *clearly* wrong since the Linksys maybe issuing another one of
>>> its
>>> >> > private IP interfaces as the DNS server address.  But yes,
>>> 192.168.1.1
>>> >> is
>>> >> > likely to be a better bet. The PC can get to it because it's only
>>> got
>>> >> one
>>> >> > default route - via 192.168.1.1 as it happens!
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Try changing this to 192.168.1.1 (if the router provides dns
>>> >> services)
>>> >> >> or
>>> >> >> the ip address of your isp's dns server if it doesn't.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If that doesn't work, try changing /etc/network/interfaces as
>>> such:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --- Snip here
>>> >> > auto lo eth0
>>> >> > iface lo inet loopback
>>> >> >
>>> >> > iface eth0 inet dhcp
>>> >> >
>>> >> > mapping hotplug
>>> >> >        script grep
>>> >> >        map eth0
>>> >> >
>>> >> > iface dsl-provider inet ppp
>>> >> >        provider dsl-provider
>>> >> >
>>> >> > iface ppp0 inet ppp
>>> >> >        provider ppp0
>>> >> > --- Cut here
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Then do "ifdown eth0" and then "ifup eth0".
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Then do:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > host www.google.co.nz
>>> >> > arp -a
>>> >> > ifconfig eth0
>>> >> > route
>>> >> >
>>> >> > By the way, do you have a link light on your network card and on
>>> your
>>> >> > Linksys?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Regards,
>>> >> > Michael.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
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