On Wednesday 07 January 2009 18:44:27 Brenda Wallace wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Nick Rout <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I wouldn't sign that as it is worded so poorly as to be meaningless.
>
> The petition text is short - it says:
> "I don't want Guilt Upon Accusation laws that will force the
> termination of internet connections and websites without evidence, and
> without a fair trial."
>
> Which part of this is not accurate?

None, but as soon as your introduce the idea of a "fail trial"
you bring the whole Justice and Corrections departments in on the Act.
Do you _really_ want criminal convictions recorded against naive minors who 
are proven to have downloaded a few flicks and songs. I would not want that at 
all.


> > There is no "Copyright Amendment Act" it is the "Copyright (New
> > Technologies) Amendment Act 2008".
>
> meh. splitting hares.

s/hares/hairs/      # learn to spell!


> > Section 92 of the Copyright (New Technologies) Amendment Act 2008 does
> > not do what is alleged. Section 53 possibly does.
>
> The commerce commission disagrees with you Nick.
> http://coffee.geek.nz/consumers-institute-submission-nz-copyright-act-s92a.
>html
>
> So does the Telecommunications Carriers Forum,  InternetNZ, ISP
> Association of New Zealand (ISPANZ), Telecommunications Users Asccociation
> of New Zealand (TUANZ), The New Zealand Computer Society, Women in
> Technology New Zealand, New Zealand Open Source Society... and a heap more.
> http://www.nzcs.org.nz/news/uploads/PDFs/CopyrightActMediaRelease.pdf
>
> The sum of the new copyright act is ISPs are required to disconnect you
> apon repeated accusation of copyright infringement. Due process is
> skipped.

s/apon/upon/   #  ditto. and that one is caught by the spell checker.

[ ... ]

This whole discussion can be boiled down to the question:-

Should people who devote a lot of time, effort, and  financial investment, 
which 
is not without risk, producing something either for the benefit or 
entertainment of other people receive a financial reward for so doing?

In this connection note that the producers of the film Sione's Wedding ended up 
without any financial benefit whatsoever because spivs and shysters made 
illicit 
copies of the DVD and sold them in South Auckland flea markets. Is that fair?

imho, it is not.

Therefore I'll not be signing the petition.

-- 
With Sincerity,
Christopher Sawtell

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