On Thursday 26 July 2001 07:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Seeing as the release of a trial version of Kylix attracted some attention
> on the a while back I figured I'd post the release of the open edition,
> which is freely usable in the development of GPL'd apps.
>
> http://www.borland.com/kylix/openedition/
I've installed it and while I'm not super-impressed, it's a *definite* move
forward, good enough to use, and better than anything else I've seen so far.
But that doesn't make it good.
I'm a bit snaky about it's lack of wizards to get simple things done, eg,
creating an initial database. It seems to go round the houses in order to
generate an .xml codebase. As hard as I'm looking I cannot find a 'tutorial'
or a 'getting started' anywhere. The documentation against the Pascal coding
is 'ok' but it makes many assumptions. One of them being that I am a former
Delphi evangelist. I gave away Turbo and Cherry Pascal circa 1989.
The 'examples' are ok. actually, quite impressive, but you have to read thru
a lot of code to see how each effect is established. The examples actually
border on aren't we clever isn't this flashy, rather than hard concrete
useful 'widgets'.
All in all tho, a good package, propably worth the $170 but not terrific.
Interesting to note that they are using loki-games code to do (most of) the
install.
Also interesting that they did some serious homework. Supporting the three
biggies, SuSE, Redhat and one other I can't remember. They took each distro
apart, looking for the gotcha's and are well versed in the various revlevels
(rh 6.0 -> Rh7.1 eg). Importantly for us, they've been there and dun that
with the god awful libjpeg, and glibc incompatibilites. They sniff your
system and supply the corrected rpm versions to suit, should you require them
as part of the supplied tarball. (A redhat 7.1 incidentally comes up roses,
no patches required, and I suspect a Suse >= 7.2 does same)
Of importance, this is NOT just-another @#)(*&)(*(*^( Swine application. I
tossed webshere, Word Perfect and a few others in the place they deserve to
be after trying to use their varying el-cheepo (s)wine emulations. This is
full bottled X code coming from Borland, and it works productivity-wise as
well as the early WordPerfect 8 point n click interface. These boys are
serious, and not on the take for yet-another quick and dirty emulation of
some awful windoze app that couldn't compete against Bill.
The one bad point I had was attempting to install as superman, It simply
refused, based on the fact that it couldn't or wouldn't, install the borland
rpm files (7 of them). As a mere mortal however, it installed just fine,
without any pain whatosever.
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