> > They're all there, its just that Mandrake has practically eliminated the
> > need for the CLI tools. And don't think that this is _not_ what people
>
>It's not what *I* want, though it'd be nice at times to have them when
>knowledge is lacking and it's not in a situation where it would stomp
>on an existing custom-configured text file.

That's fine, and I want everyone to have what they want. Choice is 
paramount. Working the way you want to is critical. The problem lies with 
the new users. Whether they approach a Mac, Windows box, or even Mandrake 
configured Linux box if they can't get some results from it immediately 
they will walk away. Ask anyone who's spent a mere 5 minutes with any OS 
for the first time and if it didn't go well, that OS will go on their 
"Sucky" list.

So, IMHO, the ultimate goal for Linux is twofold:

-Create a GUI-based system that is the pinnacle of ease and intuitiveness. 
Tools should fall to hand. Menus should contain only the items that need to 
be there. A standardized widget set language should be created, allowing 
the user, not the developer, to globally decide what their widgets will 
look like and how they will work. This last item is critical. There are far 
too many widget libraries and no standards of appearance are adhered to. 
Leave choice in, but give the ultimate choice to the end-user.

-Leave the system architecture alone. Don't fix what ain't broke. Design 
applications for both GUI and console use. Every time someone develops a 
new application they should also provide a framework that could be rolled 
into a global framework system. Make it easier to develop for Linux than it 
is for Windows. When starting a project, make it for Linux *and* MacOS X. 
Somebody please yank the WP code out of OpenOffice and make a real clone of 
M$ Word!!

I believe that this mission approach will make Linux an Every Person OS... 
in time. Forget chasing Windows. Forget trying to integrate Windows this 
and Windows that. Dump WINE. Yes, I said dump WINE. There's enough talent 
out there to make Linux native versions of everything that Windows has, and 
nobody has to pay the Pied Piper of Redmond. Finally, stop being afraid of 
making proprietary code. People have to make money and making everything 
free is not going to do it. Keep the OS GNU licensed, but make some 
commercial apps, folks! Do you think M$ has nearly $40 billion in the bank 
because it gave everything away?

> > Last, and certainly not least, is Linux. Even Red Hat, the self-appointed
> > champion of the Open Source and Linux movements, has been unable to 
> achieve
> > the ease of use and GUI integration of Mandrake. There are few distros 
> that
>
>Red Hat is not meant for the desktop, it's CEO and one of it's founders
>have both made statements to that effect. Once that's been considered the
>lack of GUI-driven tools versus having stable and more conservative
>versions of software becomes important; availability of servers, not the
>desktop, is their goal. What should be compared is Mandrake versus SuSE,
>as SuSE hasn't abandoned the desktop market completely, though it is
>closely involved with a partnership with IBM. (That will hopefully cure
>it's occasional financial worries.)

This is a major problem. The most visible Linux company in the world is 
saying that Linux is not bound for the desktop. If anyone is shooting 
themselves in the foot, its Linux. If IBM can take Linux and make an entire 
server business out of it and HP can sign a contract with Mandrake to 
supply them with desktop software (corporate or otherwise) then Linux can 
work on the desktop. In fact, its far more scalable than Windows. Hell, 
we've seen Linux in everything from a matchbox sized server to an IBM 
behemoth. What more does it take to prove the damn things worthiness!!

Tyler


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