Fastest machine at home is a mythtv box (when not being used as a myth front end) which is running xfce - start up time (to desktop) is under 20 seconds, apps open really fast (well under a second generally), shut down time is about 3 seconds. Sure, it's not running loads of services, though aside from a good amount of memory the box's specs aren't particularly amazing.

Well worth a " sudo apt-get install xfce4" or equivalent to try it out if you are tiring of your current bloat.

Optionally "goodies" are available - plugins, applications, artwork:

apt-get install xfce4-goodies

or an entire desktop install via:

apt-get install xubuntu-desktop

Cheers,
Roger


On 11/04/12 14:11, Derek Smithies wrote:
Hi,
I had thought all window managers (and windows too) are a means of displaying more information on the display. - not just ssh sessions. Roll on the day when there is a morse coded
report of slashdot along the titlebar.

The question I have - is why are window managers so "bloated"? If you take an older release (ubuntu 10.04 say) and put it on a machine which was running the latest ubuntu (11.10) the graphics are much much much faster. New windows are created in an imperceptible short period of time.

Whereas - "seconds" pass by to construct a new window with the latest ubuntu.

To get really snappy graphical response - you go back to (say) redhat 9. Me thinks/wonders if the last 10 years of gui development have just been a cleverly worked disguise to get us to buy
bigger/faster machines.

Derek.
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On 11/04/12 10:36, Steve Holdoway wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 10:05 +1200, C. Falconer wrote:

I have ended up with a minimal xfce setup... window managers should
get out of the way and manage windows, not be an entire UI.
And at home its twm.   Yes, a window manager from 1987.
Window managers are only there so you can open more ssh sessions...




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