If you're going to go down the path of 2, 2b or 3, IMO you'd also be well 
served considering using your VoIP provider as the broadband link provider too, 
if possible. Ie using 2talk's access products if they are your ITSP, or 2DM if 
they're your ITSP, or CallPlus if they're your ITSP etc etc...

That way you bypass any potential problems on the inter-ISP peering exchanges 
and/or bi-lat links, and save a hop or two worth of latency in the process.

Pete

> On 20/04/2016, at 1:37 pm, Criggie <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> We'd ditch ADSL in a flash if there was another option.  UFB by July
>> 2017.  Apparently.
> 
> The other problem with VoIP is a confusion of purpose.
> 
> VoIP might save money, but that's not the main reason for moving. 
> Instead, VoIP increases your flexibility.
> 
> One of the downsides of VoIP is expecting to put your voice over the
> public internet and have a low latency connection all the time.  We're
> moderately lucky in NZ, because 2talk is only 14-17 ms away (UFB)
> 
> I don't care if my teenager's phone calls are a bit blah sometimes.  I
> don't mind if telemarketeers sound worse than normal.
> 
> However, if you're depending on the voice service, then sharing multiple
> voice calls on your main internet link is asking for a bad user
> experience.
> 
> There are three options
> 1) Use a firewall/router that can prioritise traffic (I use pfsense)
> 
> 2) Allocate a dedicated internet connection for your voice link.  Keep it
> separate from the main network
> 2b) If you're on a UFB business connection, explore packet marking to make
> use of the high priority component of your service.  Home UFB lacks this.
> 
> 3) Talk to your ISP - see if you can buy a second vlan/pppoe link on your
> existing UFB.  Some ISPs can do this on ADSL and VDSL if your link is an
> EUBA which has prioritised voice traffic.
> 
> -- 
> Criggie
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