Hi Alan, (Before I start, I'd like to say that I'm grateful to everyone for their efforts. Also, I'm not trying to point a finger at anyone here).
Thanks for your email. You raised a pretty valid point. When I first took interest in IEEE 802.15.4, I went to the linux-zigbee website. I thought this was the place where new code will go... and weeks later I found out that the newest code was ported to net-next. Too many people on the list seems to repeat the same "mistake". It seems a lot of the key actors are currently very busy, so I would suggest a few "quick" changes that, I believe, would make life easier for newcomers: - linux-zigbee.sf.net: placing a banner on each pages advertising that new efforts are on http://code.google.com/p/linux-wsn/ - updating the hardware support page on linux-zigbee. Some devices, like the econotag are marked as "supported" but it takes a few patches to get them to work reliably. Indicate that the driver has not been ported to net-next yet when it applies. - if it does not require too much effort: provide a working tree derived from net-next, where we would apply our patches on it for everyone to test - upgrade the userspace tools to fix the issue with libnl (so far, I've seen two patches for this on the linux-zigbee the mailing list). I guess the tools are currently working for very little people. - this mailing list is fine, we should keep it; even through the legacy "zigbee" portion of the name is confusing I also agree that the name linux-wsn, or any other name that does not contain "zigbee", would be more appropriate and less misleading. Regards, Tony Le Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:09:08 -0500, Alan Ott <a...@signal11.us> a écrit : > Hello, > > I'd like to get some clarification and start some discussion on what > the path forward is for the linux-zigbee project and team. Currently > I see our situation as follows: > > 1. linux-zigbee.sf.net (first website) > * Mailing list (this one) > * Userspace tools > * recently updated, some patches are still outstanding (Tony's > Github tree). > * kernel > * Not updated in 6 months > * documentation > * mostly related to the linux-zigbee project kernel. Some out > of date. > > 2. http://code.google.com/p/linux-wsn/ (second website) > * information related to the implementation which is in the > mainline kernel. > * no code currently hosted. > * documentation > * related to the mainline kernel implementation > > It seems to me like we have some work to do regarding our front-facing > presentation to the world. Currently the two projects and websites > are a source of confusion for many newcomers. The first website is > likely what people will land on first when searching, but the second > more accurately describes the most recent developments of the project > (ie: code in the mainline kernel). > > The other issue of course is the misnomer of Linux-Zigbee, since we > are not and likely will not ever be implementing the Zigbee protocol. > > How do you, the maintainers and contributors, feel we should remedy > this situation? > > My feeling is that the websites should definitely be merged, and the > current linux-zigbee kernel be marked as legacy (for reference, and > as a temporary repository of features and drivers which have not been > merged upstream yet). Further, since the linux-zigbee name has been a > misnomer for years, my opinion would be that we start using the > linux-wsn (or some other) name for this project. Current website > links can of course be maintained from linux-zigbee.sf.net, but > anything with the words linux-zigbee on them should clearly reference > the new name (whatever that may be), and link to the new site. > > So the above is just one man's opinion, and I'm happy to be told to go > pound sand or "we like it the way it is" or whatever. It just seems > that there's a lot of confusion being presented from our community's > online presence, and I think there are some good opportunities to > make it better. > > I hope this email can stir up some discussion, and I'm happy to help > in whatever way possible, as I know the maintainers are very busy. > > Alan. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov _______________________________________________ Linux-zigbee-devel mailing list Linux-zigbee-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-zigbee-devel
