Hello, On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Dave Myers wrote:
> In a message dated 12/7/2001 8:17:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > . It makes it harder for me (and people > > like me) to really get to know the new release and be able to recommend it > > to clients for installation. I am really loathe to recommend something I > > don't have personal experience with. Perhaps SuSE would consider having > > something similar to a developer's version with the restriction that it > > not > > be used in production? > > SuSE Enterprise Business Partners do have access to the SW under conditions very similiar to the ones you describe. > > BINGO!! > > Linux is in the early stages of acceptance in the corporate community. > Distributors MUST HELP TO ESTABLISH S/390 LINUX > PRESENCE on the mainframe so that management becomes > more comfortable with it. Putting roadblocks in the way of > those of us who are trying to promote S/390 Linux is NOT the way to go > here... > > Another point... > I've been in quite a few Linux meetings trying to sell S/390 Linux > to management for server consolidation. > It's a hard sell right now....mostly because the Unix and NT gang > are whispering into management's ear that Linux is not ready for primetime... > then when management finds out that the new SuSE licensing charges > are 11K per engine....their immediate response is "I thought this stuff was > free!!" Again, Linux is free - free as in free speech, not as in free beer." (ERS?) I would have thought even (senior) managers can understand that? > > It's not that 11K per engine is an issue (it's still a lot cheaper than the > alternatives) It really is rather in-expensive by comparison, given that the z900 IFL for it costs far more than 10 times as much and a VM license for such substantially more than $11,000. > It's going from $150 to $11,000 per engine that seems a bit extreme > (and imho a bad strategic move). You are, unfortunately, comparing apples and pears. While the Media Kit of the SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 1 was indeed priced at $150, the SuSE Linux Enterprise Server 7 product comes with a range of services (maintenance, installation support ...) included which make up the main part of the price. Btw. the maintenance charge for your z900 engine was actually lowered from $24,000 (1-2 engines) to $11,500. > > Distributors need to be more patient for the $$$$. > > Dave Myers What about the consultants? Best regards, Jens -- Jens W. Sandmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.suse.com
