To:        Hamlug
From:    Wayne Hardy
Re:        Meeting space and the advantages of the
Library

Since, at the January meeting, we may be
discussing meeting locations I want to
throw these ideas out in advance so people
can think about them.

When the discussion came up about an alternate
meeting space I saw that people didn't realize
how valuable the Library really is for reasons
which may not be obvious at first.  Let me
mention some of those:


1. The Library is a public facility. People in the

community know where it is and how to get there.
When it comes to attracting new people, they are
a more likely to come to a public meeting space
than a private address that they never heard of
before.

2. If we bring in outside speakers, they can
find the library more easily. And the public
is much more likely to come to a public lecture
at a public facility.

If you ever try to start a group and get
people to a meeting, or try to promote a public
event, you begin to appreciate these things.

3. There are issues of safety, liability and
insurance, should there be an accident at the
meeting location. The library, I'm sure, has
already addressed these things. At a different
location HAMLUG could incur liability or may
be required to have its own insurance. Not only
don't we have a budget for things like insurance
but we don't have an official officer or
representative to sign those kinds of papers.
That might require registration as a business
or a corporation. Things like a Constitution,
By-Laws, Board of Directors, Incorporation
and bank accounts are a whole different
technology. Personally, I'd rather stick to
Linux, for now. We're not ready to develop
that kind of structure yet.

4. The library will be available for years
to come and that could give us a very stable
home base.  I know of one group that has
been meeting there consistently for 15 years.
That kind of stability not only gains points
with the Library (scheduling preference and
whatnot) but it builds credibility with the
community.  Meeting at someone's business
depends on our good relationship with the
business owner and the business staying where
it is, both of which are far more variable
than the Library.

The Library will likely ALWAYS be open to
the public for groups to meet because that
is part of it's purpose. Not so with a
private business which may change it's
policy from year to year (or quicker).

5. Meeting in a community Library gives us a
certain status in the community. It makes us
look more like we're a part of the community
and more legitimate. This could be very much
in our favor as time goes on.

6. Then there's the issue of bringing equipment
in and out of the building and the concerns
of the business that what we're taking
belongs to us, not them. If something is
broken or missing we're the natural suspects.
This can become a sticky issue. At the Library
this is is not much of a concern since we are
not near any of the library's own equipment.
I'm sure the library has worked through
these issues, since they have outside groups
meeting there all the time, which may be
partially why the meeting rooms are located
where they are.

7. The library has an LCD projector that we
can use. This is not to be underestimated
since they cost 10-20 thousand bucks to buy.
If we break it we are less likely to be held
liable since it is public property and used
by many public groups. If we break the
business's projector we may be in deep soup.

8. If we use the business's internet connection
we run the risk of our experiments causing the
business to look like it's snooping networks.
Not good for them.  We may want to run a web
server for an evening or stream some multi-media
for a demo. I don't know if this will fly with
the business's ISP. And if we have many attendees
on a LAN hooked to their company's network or
their internet connection it's hard to control
what happens. If the LUG has it's own ISP
connection we don't risk embarrassing the
business with our networking mistakes. Not
something to take lightly in this day and
age. Best to consider these things in advance.

When it comes to networking we are not a
passive group. For us it's not just a
connection for web browsing. We'll likely
be doing more sophisticated things. I
wouldn't want our group to annoy the
business's ISP with our experiments.

For these reasons, access to the company's
network and internet connection may not be
as attractive as it first seems.  It could
actually be more of a liability than an
advantage.  Best to consider these things
in advance.


Now, having said all that, I'm not against
meeting elsewhere. I just don't think people
realize how valuable the Library space really
is in some less tangible ways. It's not just
a meeting room with parking. There is more to
it that is not obvious at first.  I think
those with more experience organizing groups
will appreciate this.

This is why I prefer using a second location
in ADDITION to the Library, not instead of it.
An alternate location may have advantages but
we shouldn't give up what we have without
serious consideration.  The group could be
giving up something far more valuable than
they realize. My suggestion is to keep using
the library as we build our relationship with
the library and the community. Let's look
at another space in addition to that (not
instead of) and try it with some side meetings.

Now here are some advantages to have a second,
additional, meeting location:

1. As we get more organized it may be useful to
have board meetings, planning, or business
meetings (officer's meetings) apart from the
regular monthly meetings so the business
doesn't take time away from our main focus
which is Linux Technology. We might need a
secondary meeting space for that.

2. There might be offshoots of the group who
want to focus on some particular area that not
everyone is interested in and they might have
enough interest and energy to have separate
meetings.  That's how SIG's emerge from a
main user group.  These take extra meeting
space and times.

The business location may have equipment or
networking available that lends itself to
things we want to do, if we work it out
so we don't get in their way. Such as:
having our own web server or VPN host that
is online 24/7.  And it may also be possible
that we could assist them with our Linux/Unix
knowledge base.

So... I'm interested to see what's up with
this other location but I feel strongly we
should hold on to the library for our main
meetings.

Wayne Hardy






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