On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 14:43, loyal_barber <loyal_bar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --- In LINUX_Newbies@yahoogroups.com, "Darksyde" <m_alexande...@...> wrote:
>>   You had several good points there, Loyal.  I do somewhat like the machine, 
>> though I don't care for the feel of the keyboard (I can type wildly on my 
>> 'shiba).  Actually, Wallyworld has a Toshiba Satellite L675D for $578 and it 
>> looks pretty good.  17.3" display, 4 Gig RAM, 320 Gig SATA, but, alas, only 
>> 3 USB's.  I'm planning on getting a "Squid" from ThinkGeek anyway, a company 
>> with some of the coolest shit you don't really need but can't live without, 
>> FYI.
>>   Question: Is it my imagination or have I heard that Win 7 did not 
>> particularly like sharing with other OS's (as in a duel-boot)?
>>   Mark
>>
> If you search for it on Ubuntu forums, it seems to be an issue with
> Grub2.  Grub2 takes more room than grub and it seems that certain
> Windoze programs will overwrite part of it leaving your system
> unable to boot until you repair grub.  That said, I have been
> dual booting Win 7 64 bit with Mint 9 64 bit without issue.  I
> honestly don't know how widespread the issue is.  I do know that
> people have reported the same issue with grub2 and XP.

What Loyal said :-)

TO be more specific, the programs in question seem to be the recovery
programs used by various manufacturers to do "System Recovery" or
whatever they want to call it.  These programs use that bit of your
hard disk that is wasted on storing a backup copy of Windows and all
the crap the manufacturer pre-loads.  This way they don't have to
actually give you a recovery disk.

What happens is that grub2's first stage is larger than the older
grub, and when you boot windows, the recovery software sees that grub2
has overwritten some of the recovery software data that is also stored
in the MBR, and does it's own automatic recovery to save you from the
evil infection in your MBR.

This was confirmed repeatedly on Dell systems, though I'm not sure if
Toshiba systems also displayed this behaviour.  But to be honest, I
delete that recovery partition anyway and remove the software from
inside Windows after being bit by this. Unfortunately, this isn't a
bug in Ubuntu, or Linux in general, it's a problem with the recovery
software and thus will most likely never get fixed.

BUT, deleting the software at least (e.g. using the "Add or Remove
Software" tool in the Windows control panel) will keep it from
happening again (though you will have to rebuild grub at least once in
the process).

But other than that, Win7 has no issues living with another OS.

Cheers,
Jeff


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