On Saturday 30 December 2006 18:32, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:

> It's a chicken & egg situation. "Linux can't do anything without
> GNU" and "GNU is nothing without Linux"... oh wait GNU will have
> Hurd... whenever it is ready...

irrelevant. You can use the gnu tools, as also tons of other FOSS 
stuff without a linux kernel. See my earlier mail. Everyone can 
decide which is more important based on their own logic.

>
> Also, I feel that it's unfair that any contribution to FOSS be
> called "secondary", especially key contributions such as Linux,
> X.org, Apache... stuff without which Linux would never have gained
> any recognition.

Absolutely. not just linux, neither would have the FSF or X.org or 
Apache, or KDE. All of them have been instrumental in everybody 
else's success.
The common thread running thru them is the ecosystem of freedom 
afforded and protected by the GNU GPL. and that is what the FSF is 
shouting about. In an attempt to pander to popular taste do not 
dilute the freedom message. State it once at the beginning and once 
in the end. Fill the inbetween with whatever takes your fancy.

> They're not wrong in asking for recognition for their work, so I
> wouldn't say grab credit. It's just they they want everything that
> has their tool suite (namely, all Linux distros) to have GNU/Linux
> instead of Linux as recognition since "they are the principal
> contributors".

How on earth did u jump to that conclusion. The fsf website states 
clearly and accurately that accreditation is of limited importance.
But the principle of freedom is uneqivivocally important.
Organisations like the OSI went about approving licences like the CDDL 
and  Nokia Open Source License (NOKOS License) Version 1.0 both of 
which cannot be termed free by any stretch of imagination. And yet we 
have people labelling gpld stuff as open source. They are as 
different as cheese and cyanide.


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JTD

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