On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:04:33 +0530, Rony
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:  

> The reason for this detailed description is to highlight that in
> Windows one simply runs the JRE exe and it is installed
> automatically.

        Heavens. You have to download the exe manually from somewhere?
 or click on some untrusted source to get the JRE from?

% aptitude install sun-java5-jre
  or
% aptitude install sun-java6-jre

        (:-), for the humour impaired)

> I did not rant about this as I thought that a solution will be in
> sight as time goes by. However when some people post ridiculous
> statements that anything the does not work in Linux is crap, this
> reaction is bound to happen and all the drawbacks of FOSS will come
> out. What is the use of FOSS if it does not get peoples' work done and
> in a reasonably fast installation time.

        There is no computing environment where everything works
 perfectly.  But in my experience, Debian does get the work done for me,
 which I can't get done otherwise, because either the functionality does
 not exist, or is too expensive, or can't be tailored to my needs.

        How does one implement a non-bayesian OSB markov model Spam
 filtering on windows? How can one augment that with rules based
 checking, and perhaps a naive bayesian alternate? And how about adding
 selective grey listing? And SMTP time rejection of viruses?

        On Debian, I use sendmail, mimedefang, spamassassin, clamav, and
 mailagent [0], and I have not discovered a false positive in over 30
 months, and I get false negatives now at the rate of about 2 a week
 (700mails a day input -- [1]) -- and unsure messages of about 3-5/day,
 which I use to train the filters.

        Seems like windows would let me down -- and windows has far more
 need of blocking the Spam.

        Mind you, I am not saying that Debian would fit the needs of
 most people -- but the claim that closed source software gets things
 done and the free software community is always in catch-up mode is not
 something I can let go  unchallenged.

        manoj

[0]: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/categories/spam.html
[1]: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/mail/
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