I am newbie to this group.let me introduce myself.
I am Chetan Ingle working in Rolta india ltd as s/w engg.Working on advanced java and redhat linux.Well When after started working on linux I simply fall in luv with linux and now I fall in luv I don't wanna come back .
So I want everything on linux.
Well I just read message of Saswata Banerji,I think it's easy to migrate to linux so we can convince customer.I have over 2 years experience on linux and java where i have done same thing like migrating application to linux.The only thing we have to do is give good technical support to customer after migration.Once we do for one customer then remaining customers will be convinced automatically.
let me know ur views too.
Regards,
Chetan Ingle
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From: "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:28:24 +0530
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Connected with the same topic actually,
If we manage to convince one of our clients to move at least partially to
linux, how can ILUG help them ?
I am talking about companies falling between small and mid-sized companies
in service industry. Say with 150-200 people working for them ? Can we
promise such people help in moving to Linux and help in solving problems
that they face ?
Companies like these are not the ones who can use help from usenet or such
things.
I have been telling my clients that Linux is a good platform to move to,
specially since it does not make sense to pay huge amounts for official
windows software. I have also told them that the platform is very stable,
meaning that once installed, unless you fiddle with things, it will work
trouble free for years. But they are still worried about whether they will
be able to cope up with problems that they may face. (Neither can they
afford to have expensive tech-support contracts)
Regards
Saswata
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Message: 2
From: "Amol Hatwar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:51:33 +0530
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> From: "Amol Hatwar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss
>
>
> >> market share in desktop environment. The entire core of dotnet strategy
> is
> >> to move things away from the desktop / client and move the processing
to
> >>the
> >> server
> > These days are too far. The people at Sun thought about the Network
> Computer
> > and burnt their hands.
> >
> > Sometimes I use connection speeds where even the K is absent ;).
>
> DotNet was thougth out and designed when the DotCom boom was at its crest
> and every one was saying the all corporate will move to ASP (Application
> Service Provider) model of computing. The dotnet strategy could, obviously
> not be changed at this stage though the dotcom boom ended, so its features
> are still there waiting for the time when it will be implemented. Till
then,
> it will only serve to further bloat windows software.
The ASP model in general was a failure how many more dot-com companies do we
need to prove that.
>
> As for Network Computer, I think one hand it was badly marketed, and on
the
> other hand, there was very little benefit of moving to that platform. The
> savings at each client was minimum and that power demand requirement added
> on the server side was too much. Sun based its NC strategy on
> "Anit-Microsoft" platform rather on user needs and benefits.
The NC seems promising even today. But then lets wait for IBM to eat Sun ;).
Maybe then it will be more valid.
Regards,
Amol Hatwar.
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Message: 3
From: "Amol Hatwar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:11:45 +0530
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Connected with the same topic actually,
>
> If we manage to convince one of our clients to move at least partially to
> linux, how can ILUG help them ?
Maybe we should try this area as well. What say people. The best way to
prove your ability is by DOING IT.
> I am talking about companies falling between small and mid-sized companies
> in service industry. Say with 150-200 people working for them ? Can we
> promise such people help in moving to Linux and help in solving problems
> that they face ?
*snip*
I am thinking of starting a Consulting company that will do only GNU/Linux
and M$ to GNU/Linux migration. And I am looking for willing customers...
Saswata where can I get in touch with you regarding this?
Warm wishes,
Amol Hatwar.
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Message: 4
From: "Amol Hatwar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:06:54 +0530
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amol Hatwar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Ignorance is bliss
> > The term .NET is confusing, you are refering to the passport and other
> > services. Speaking technically correctly .NET is an initiative... that
> > promises a lot of things. The Linux/Windows interoperability that I am
> > talking of here is one of them.
>
> DotNet is not just a strategy, it is also a family of products. It
includes
*snip*
Right on... the products are to implement the strategy... and the strategy
as I see it will ultimately evolve to hoodwink the users.
> > > The move to port dotnet to linux platform is another version of the
same
> >
> > Like I said .NET is NOT a product that you install... its an
initiative...
> > comprising of a multitude of products and services. Porting... is some
> other
> > question.
>
> I was refering to the DotNet Server Software and the DotNet Framework
> including Microsoft Intermediate Language. These will ensure that all
> software designed for running on the dotnet server and those made with
> Microsoft Visual Studio .Net RAD tools will work on linux.
Right on again... M$ wants to reap from the Linux market as well. Thats
because they know they're strong on desktop products.... the M$ Office Suite
for instance. They want to sell that to Linux users too. Its like a dual
strategy. They want to replace our applications and then our OS as well.
>
> >
> > > hedging......in case linux becomes more popular on the server front,
> > > software designed on dotnet platform will run even if the server is
> > running
> > > linux, and the desktops are windows. Believe me, they will finalise
and
> > > complete the codes to production level only if linux becomes too
popular
> > at server level.......Otherwise, it will remain "experimental"
> >
> > Which OS do you think has the upperhand in server markets now? :D
>
> True, Linux has a lead in the server market, specially in large and very
> large applications, webservers, etc. But Windows is catching on faster
than
> you realise. Futher, dont forget that there is another fast growing server
> market, which is servers used by (small, medium and large%2
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