On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[email protected]> wrote:
> In this case, the discussion is highly relevant as it gives a clear pointer
> as to why so few women appear on community mailing lists. This is a
> problem that worries a lot of us. I personally was horrified at the sexist

Stop right there. I was *not* being sexist in any manner. If you think
so, thats your opinion and it is *wrong*. Her behavior was completely
uncalled for when she provoked me. The problem here is that these days
people rarely understand that their actions have consequences. I
wasn't the one indulging in *repeated* name calling or provoking
others. There was a thread which I replied to. She had no business
provoking me or any member on this list. She did that and these were
the consequences.

These days people make issues out of millions of things. Seems they
have nothing better to do but to pick a topic and make an issue out of
an non-issue. As I've reiterated time and again, helping a minority
group by providing them means is one thing. Herding them into using
something just because you think its the best thing around *and* doing
it all under the pretext of helping them is pure BS. You give them the
means, educate them. Thats just about it. Let them decide.

Secondly the issue of equality. The moment you start dividing or
identifying or classifying any individual, you've started to
discriminate. I treated Ms.Ayer as I would treat any person
irrespective of their gender. That is called equality. Live with it.

Thirdly, if people think women should be given preferential or
different treatment because they cannot tolerate our behavior then
they should go form a separate community ( which is what Linuxchix is
about ) but they should be given a good lesson in tolerance.

In todays world there is nothing impeding well women from entering
into any field. They know their choices and they have the means. There
are some nasty social problems and I am definitely against them. If
Ms.Ayer or anybody here on this list feels that I should've been more
polite or whatever *because* shes a woman then they're the ones who
need a lesson in equality.

The mere fact that I have treated Ms.Ayer as a person and not someone
of the opposite sex is ample proof that I value equality.

Lastly, a person's principles go with him no matter where he is. I can
see that Ms.Ayer doesn't believe in her own principles as I mentioned
in an earlier reply that she broke no less than 4 codes of conduct
that had her name on it. I value my principles and I dont abandon
them. I believe in helping the needy but definitely *not* at the cost
of hurting the sentiments of the majority or by putting them at a
disadvantage.

This is precisely the reason why this world still has quota raj and
minority politics.

I am definitely *against* misbehavior and harassment. But at the same
time everybody should learn to accept and treat people equally and
this *cant* be accomplished by categorizing ourselves.

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Dinesh A. Joshi
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