On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Binand Sethumadhavan <[email protected]>wrote:

> 2011/1/6 Shamit Verma <[email protected]>:
> > This percentage is based on number of http requests and unique users
> making
> > those requests. On every http request, client sends a header to server to
> > identify itself. This header indludes info on OS, Browser versions etc.
>
> Thanks.
>
> > Statcounter, NetApplications and others take this data from Layer1
> routers
> > and poulblish aggregate data. Opera made its claim on these numbers.
>
> Now, what is a "Layer1 router"?
>
> Opera's claim is from analytics of its Opera Turbo system - which is
> an Opera-owned proxy that sits between Opera Mini and the actual
> website and takes up a bunch of processing (including running
> javascript).
>
> > Opera, when it is running on Samsung or Nokia or iOS identifies itself as
> > Opera. So if you are using Nokia 6303:
> >
> >   1. If you use Nokia's built in browser, Header will report that as
> Nokia
> >   browser running on Symbian
> >   2. If you use Opera Mini, Header will report that Opera running on
> >   Symbian
>
> And what about case 3: Where a custom build of Opera Mini, based upon
> a private label deal between Opera and Nokia, is the built-in browser
> on the handset (as is the case in the Nokia 6303)?
>
> > To debunk Opera's claims, sum of Android + iOS is enough. Because that
> alone
> > is 36% which is MUCH higher than Opera's share of total http requests.
>
> Counting total HTTP requests obviously depends on whether Statscounter
> or whoever gets to see the request; Opera Mini in Turbo mode
> apparently doesn't allow them to do so.
>
>
Opera in Turbo mode has to send request to StatCounter et el. Path is like
this:

Mobile Borwser -> Opera Proxy -> Target Site

Depending on Site, stats companies capture it at Layer 1 routers of major
providers like NTT or others like Gawker send daily feeds to it. Opera proxy
reports UA as Opera Mini. Layer 1 is something like telephone exchange.

Regarding 6303, it has two browsers. Depending on which browsers you are
using (Device or Opera) it will send different strings.

Run a simulation on Nokia's test baords, you will get a list of All  UA's
reported by a perticular build of OS (In this case S40 firmware for 6303).
UA (User Agent) is part of HTTP headersent by client. Based on this, this
phone has both WebKit as well as Opera. WebKit is default. So if you use
things like Google Maps app, web panel in that App would use WebKit.

UA's sent by this device:

Nokia6303classic/2.0 (06.21) Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1
Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/420+
Nokia6303classic/2.0
(06.40) Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Nokia6303classic/2.0 (06.40)
Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML,
like Gecko) Safari/420+ Nokia6303classic/2.0 (08.90) Profile/MIDP-2.1
Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko)
Safari/420+ Nokia6303classic/2.0 (08.90) Profile/MIDP-2.1
Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Profile/MIDP-1.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0
UNTRUSTED/1.0 Nokia6303classic/2.0
(09.10) Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/420+
(KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/420+ Nokia6303classic/2.0 (09.10)
Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML,
like Gecko) Safari/420+ UP.Link/6.6.5.0.0 Nokia6303classic/2.0 (09.10)
Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Profile/MIDP-1.0
Configuration/CLDC-1.0 UNTRUSTED/1.0 Nokia6303classic/2.0 (10.10)
Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML,
like Gecko) Safari/420+ Nokia6303classic/2.0 (10.10) Profile/MIDP-2.1
Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Profile/MIDP-1.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.0
UNTRUSTED/1.0 Nokia6303classic/2.0
(10.12) Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/420+
(KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/420+ Nokia6303classic/2.0 (p) Profile/MIDP-2.1
Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/420+ (KHTML, like Gecko)
Safari/420+ nokia6303classic/06.40; Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera
Mini/4.1.13961/546; sk; U; ssr) nokia6303classic/08.90; Opera/9.50
(J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.1.13961/546; de; U) nokia6303classic/09.10;
Opera/9.50 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/4.1.13961/546; sk; U)
-Shamit
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