That's why I don't use drum notation maps. Most of my equipment also recognizes 
note duration, and not only kicks the drum (gates, pitch modulation...) And I 
guess, it doesn't matter if I move this from drum synthies to samplers. Also 
the sampler makes a difference in sound (if the sample's aware of this), 
whether I send C4, velocity 80, quarter note or Eb3, velocity 103, full note. 
Both may be kick drums, one a kick, the other a snare...It's not necessary to 
draw this midi event in a notation editor, when I play it more like a real 
instrument...

And to totally screw it up: I use the notation editor of Rosegarden to control 
a filter bank. This cutie counts quarter notes and opens filters or adds 
distortion of velocity amount...

To summarize this: Notation editors rely on maps, C4->Midievent(pitch=C4, 
velocity=80, duration=Quarter). Therefore you need to define maps. With a 
simple piano roll or more complex notation editor you don't need maps=time 
saving. (But there's a need of knowing your equipment, resp. sample material.)

Anders Dahnielson wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:15 PM, schoappied <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> 
>     methke01 wrote:
>      > There's a fancy feature: hit the keys ;-) Or are you scared of
>      > trial-and-error? Normally there's a GM (General Midi) standard for
>      > placing drum sounds on specific keys but a) no one cares about GM and
>      > normally a sampler doesn't care about anything at all, it's just
>     samples.
>      >
>     I think it does matter where you put it when you want to use drum
>     notation (score). And it would be very useful if a sampler takes that in
>     account.
> 
> 
> Not necessarily. The way drums (and percussion) is notated, the 
> instruments position ("pitch") on the staff, does not correspond 1:1 to 
> how they are mapped in MIDI.
> 
> 1) There's different ways of notate drums. Compare for instance these 
> examples, they are all a little bit different.
> 
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Percussion-staves
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percussion_notation
> 
> http://www.berkleeshares.com/download/765766/berklee_alternating_strokes.pdf
> 
> 2) The way drums are mapped in MIDI is usually for convenience when 
> inputing them using a keyboard or to match the layout of a specific drum 
> machine/sound module. Any respected sequencing or notation software 
> should be able to load different drum maps so it can be used together 
> with a variety of sampled drum kits/sound modules. If the software 
> require a specific mapping, then you have no other option to remap your 
> sampled drum kit or sound module to match it (and if you assembling your 
> own kit from the start, then you can map it to match the softwares 
> requirements).
> 
> -- 
> Anders Dahnielson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> 
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