On Freitag, 27. September 2019 17:24:43 CEST Ivan Maguidhir wrote:
> On 27/09/2019 10:12, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> > That graphic in the GSt editor might as well just be some symbolic
> > representation of the LFO wave form, or does the graphic of the LFO
> > function change when you alter any parameter?
> 
> Yes, the wavelength of the waveform representing the LFO in the graphic
> changes as the frequency parameter is changed. That's the only parameter
> that has any effect. The start position of the LFO stays the same (mid
> value) for all frequency values.

Hmm, sounds not very reliable for this issue.

> > Do you have a chance to test the actual audio output to verify what the
> > actual start levels of the 3 LFOs are?
> 
> I tried this but I wasn't sure what to look for in the output. If you
> could recommend a test tone to use I'll try it again.

Well, if you get some sound out of that installation then it should not be so 
hard to do those tests:

1. Just a pick any sample that's immediately there (without a slow attack in 
the sample itself that is) and that's long enough (i.e. looped), probably some 
very simple synthetic sample like a raw saw or sqaure or so might be the best, 
then

2. in the GSt editor make sure that amplitude "attack time" is set to minimum 
to ensure the sample is immediately there when being triggered.

Then do the actual LFO settings, for instance for LFO 1 (amplitude):

3. Set LFO's "Internal Depth" to zero.

4. Select some arbitrary LFO MIDI controller that you have there (e.g. 
Modulation Wheel). By default you see Controller = internal in GSt editor.

5. Set LFO's "Control Depth" to maximum (i.e. 1200).

6. Set LFO's frequency very low (or lowest) so that's easier to hear on which 
value the LFO actually starts.

Now at the actual playback:

7. Push the assigned MIDI controller (e.g. modwheel) to its maximum value on 
your MIDI keyboard.

8. Trigger and hold a note on your keyboard. You should now hear LFO 
modulating the volume on your sample.

9. Release the note and now push the assigned MIDI controller (e.g. modwheel) 
on your MIDI keyboard to its minimum value, so that the LFO is now 
disabled=neutral.

10. Trigger and hold again a note on your keyboard. You should now hear the 
sample being played without any volume modulation, since the LFO is off.

That way you should clearly hear the difference whether the amp LFO starts 
with max. volume or mid value volume.

For LFO 2 and LFO 3 you would do the same steps.

----

Our assumption years ago was that GSt's LFO 1 (amp/volume) and LFO 2 (filter 
cutoff frequency) would start at maximum value, whereas LFO 3 (pitch) would 
start at mid (in case of pitch = neutral) value.

Does that make sense to you?

CU
Christian




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