I think the issue he is trying to address is that if a controller dies he
wants to make sure the machine can still function as intended not expanding
storage within that machine.  It wouldn't be very difficult at all to
implement software RAID1 as Jason pointed out.  RAID1 is relatively low
overhead so it should not effect the I/O on either controller either.  I
agree with Trevor that having this be entirely hardware would be ideal and
very nice, but software RAID1 is a good alternative especially if you have
to implement a fix on a single machine.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Todd Lyons <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Trevor Benedict<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know of a hardware raid system that would have (in the same
> box)
> > 2 raid cards, and it act like a RAID 1 or 1+0 or even a RAID 5/6? Same
> > mobo/cpu.
> >
> > I would think someone like 3ware would have such a thing. This way you
> don't
> > have to have a 2nd xU mirror, and have to do "real time" replication, and
> IP
> > stuff.
>
> I've never messed with any hardware that does this, but it seems awful
> difficult to me to try and implement that.  I assume you're already
> using the model that's 12 or 16 drives and just want to add more?  If
> you're using the 4 or 8 drive model, my uninformed advice would be to
> just upgrade to a larger card rather than try and link two together.
> I can't even imagine how much it would slow down the system for the
> kernel to have to track which PCI device it would have to talk to for
> each chunk of disk IO required.  Or are you saying that the kernel
> really only talks to one and then that one distributes the data over
> some external bus connection that is direct from card to card?  That
> puts the bottleneck on the card to pci-x bus connection, instead of
> spreading out the data writes/reads across two separate pci-x bus
> connectors.  I may be misunderstanding something.
>
> > I only bring this up because I had a 3ware card fail on me last Monday.
> It
> > was a MySQL master.
>
> Which 3Ware card?  We've got a box that's used as a central store for
> mysqldumps (or innodbbackup, depending on the system) with two 3Ware
> 9650SXU-8LP cards, both in  RAID 5 with 1 TB drives (931 GB drives for
> the true 1024 believers), so the first controller has 4.55 TB, and the
> second has 5.46TB.
>
> The second controller just had an issue where one drive failed, and
> the spare did not automatically get added to the array and start a
> rebuild.  Problem was, we didn't have it marked as a spare.  PEBKAC.
> damn...
>
> BTW, if you are not using the 3dm2 (aka tdm2) app which gives you a
> web based (appears to be written in java) frontend for the tw_cli
> management tool, you are missing out.  It is seriously very useful and
> seems to give a better picture of what is happening when there are
> problems, and gives you facilities to automate email to you/sysadmins
> when there is an issue with the controller or drives.
> --
> Regards...      Todd
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