Roger:
"Bottom line, I would like to use CentOS for certain server-related
stuff, but would also like to budget in a yearly fee for when I need
to call someone for assistance."

Ive used RHEL and CentOS in production.  RHEL due to previous admins
or certain users requesting it, CentOS because I prefer it over RHEL.
I hate RHEL.  RHEL 5 is better then previous releases, but CentOS is
easier to setup, having more in the repos, and the community is faster
and far more helpful with problems then RHEL support.  The two are
similar but not equal.  Im sure you can find payed support for CentOS.
 There are definite a few situations where proprietary software is
written specifically fo RHEL and not CentOS, so it is sometimes a pain
to get things working on CentOS.

Ragi:
The original comment was about open source (it may have been a joke,
or maybe serious). However, you used the term "GPL" interchangeably,
and that was the origin of my comment.


Right, roger said open source.  My comment was about GPL.  I was not
interchanging them.  I was careful to limit my comment to GPL.  Saying
open source is a little broad.

"Anyway, some of us don't leave in academia-world and do consulting to
pay the bills. In this business-world, we have to make the best
decision for our customers and *explain* to them what is best for
them. In certain cases, *shrug*, open source is not the best solution.
In many scenarios, the license is the real deal killer. Sometimes,
these companies don't feel comfortable with GPL - and with reason. "

You are free to live outside of "academic-world".  I am also a
sys-admin and even though it is at a university, I do get paid and
have bills to pay like anyone else.  I agree, in some cases, open
source is not an option to customers,  but it is always the best
solution in implementation, when possible, and the best practice when
writing code.

"But make no mistake, in many cases, GPL is used to protect the
***creator's*** original intention with the source code, not the
***user***. Actually, I am not against that, they created it, it is
their *right* to do so. But calling that " freedom for the **user** "
is just regurgitating licensing political speech. If you want to talk
"freedom of the ***user***", then licenses like BSD give the
***user*** far more freedom."

No, that is wrong.  What is the GNU GPL for, what is its purpose or intention?
To defend the freedom of every user.
That everyone that gets the software gets the following freedoms:
0. the freedom to run the program as you wish.
1. the freedom to study the source code and change it as you wish.
2. the freedom to help your neighbour, which is the freedom to
distribute exact copies up to and including publication when you which
3. the freedom to contribute to your community, which is the freedom
to distribute copies of your modified copies up to and including
publication.

"Ugh, I think I started a license talk. Lame. Sorry."

I am only going to correct what you said, not attack it.  Piece not war ::grin::

There is always an exception.  As an alternative to proprietary
licensing only, dual licensing is acceptable, i.e., QT.  Releasing the
code under GPL and then selling to particular companies permission to
use the same code in other ways.  It should be noted that the FSF will
never support dual licensing as policy because they believe in
treating everyone the same.

Chris...



On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Roger E. Rustad, Jr.
<roger.rus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Jeff Lasman <jpli...@nobaloney.net> wrote:
>> And for what it's worth, that $15/month fee from Red Hat doesn't include any
>> support; it's strictly a fee for us to be able to tell people we use Red Hat
>> (when i last spoke with a Rep [a long time ago]) he said he didn't even care
>> if I used the CentOS ISO, as long as I paid for the right to call it Red Hat.
>> While I doubt that's official company policy (and it's not what I do), it's 
>> an
>> interesting.
>
> Interesting...
>
> I've heard conflicting things about CentOS and Red Hat.  Someone told
> me that you could use CentOS and that Red Hat would support it if you
> paid their fee.  I posed that question on a listserv, and I got shot
> down, yet I read posts like yours that say that it's all about just
> paying your money.
>
> Bottom line, I would like to use CentOS for certain server-related
> stuff, but would also like to budget in a yearly fee for when I need
> to call someone for assistance.
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