You would certainly then have a lot more and higher quality games.

On 2/17/11 5:00 PM, Trevor Benedict wrote:
I wished Linux had a strong GUI/API system like OSX.
Yes its less choice, but it makes for a strong platform for developers to build apps on. There isn't 4+ ways to do sound, and 3+ completely different GUI API's.
-- Trevor

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com <mailto:cantorm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Right, but GTK isn't the problem, is it?  I thought Gnome was what
    people complained about being messy.

    Chris...

    On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Trevor Benedict <mre...@gmail.com
    <mailto:mre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > Well theres "Gnome" and then there is GTK. Pretty sure they are
    using GTK as
    > the primary GUI API.
    > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity
    >
    
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Unity_Architecture.pdf
    
<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Unity_Architecture.pdf>
    > Im 1/2 and 1/2 on the new GUI.
    > -- Trevor
    >
    > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Chris Penn
    <cantorm...@gmail.com <mailto:cantorm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >>
    >> On a [(Ubuntu - Gnome) + Unity]  note:
    >>
    >> I found this old post on brainstorm.ubuntu.com
    <http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com>.
    >> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/20576/
    >>
    >> I had not seen any such review of Gnome 3, but I would not be
    >> surprised if some of what is said here is true.  I like Gnome
    better
    >> that the alternatives, but I am aware that many devs have big
    >> complaints, i.e., Linus Torvald.  I have no idea who this
    poster is,
    >> but recent posts about Gnome 3 made me google a bit.  Just
    thought I
    >> would share.
    >>
    >> Chris...
    >>
    >> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Chris Penn
    <cantorm...@gmail.com <mailto:cantorm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >> > Source:
    >> >
    http://www.cio.com.au/article/367050/ubuntu_risky_leap_unity_wayland/
    >> >
    >> > "Today Canonical and Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth
    announced on his
    >> > blog that the Ubuntu distribution will move away from the
    traditional
    >> > X.org display environment to Wayland a more modern alternative."
    >> >
    >> > Shuttleworth's blog:
    >> > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551
    >> >
    >> > Do or die...  Will Ubuntu jump ahead of the pack with Canonical's
    >> > extreme decision?  Will Mark retreat if it fails and was it a
    fail
    >> > before it started? Will Canonical fall behind in trying to
    make Unity
    >> > number one?  I want to be optimistic, but I cant look...
    >> >
    >> > Chris...
    >> >
    >> > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Chris Penn
    <cantorm...@gmail.com <mailto:cantorm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >> >> A lengthy but good rant by a person that thinks canonical is
    insane
    >> >> for abandoning Gnome for Unity.
    >> >>
    http://eyeonlinux.com/2010/11/02/unity-ubuntus-descent-into-madness/
    >> >>
    >> >> I just appreciate the passion this user has for Gnome.
    >> >>
    >> >> Chris...
    >> >>
    >> >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Chris Penn
    <cantorm...@gmail.com <mailto:cantorm...@gmail.com>>
    >> >> wrote:
    >> >>> A bit from the other side:
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    
http://www.thevarguy.com/2010/10/27/gnome-developers-attack-canonicals-ubuntu-decision/
    >> >>>
    >> >>>  "Jon McCann, lead designer for GNOME Shell, recently
    shared his
    >> >>> thoughts and he was none too charitable in his comments on
    Canonical.
    >> >>> Jon McCann views this move as a fundamental break between
    Ubuntu and
    >> >>> GNOME.
    >> >>> McCann noted that Unity’s principal designer just left
    Canonical, and
    >> >>> that it will be difficult for the company to forge a completely
    >> >>> independent path after having relied centrally on upstream
    >> >>> contributions for most of its existence.  “When you have
    been standing
    >> >>> on the shoulders of giants for so long it is a bold move to
    leap off
    >> >>> and hope you can fly on your own,” McCann says..."
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Unwanted change seems to be inevitable.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Chris...
    >> >>>
    >> >>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Paul Saenz
    >> >>> <forensicneoph...@gmail.com
    <mailto:forensicneoph...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >> >>>> This si the video I couldn't watch:
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGoWNZUqLfA
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Paul Saenz
    >> >>>> <forensicneoph...@gmail.com
    <mailto:forensicneoph...@gmail.com>>
    >> >>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> I am not usually one that runs after latest greatest, and I
    >> >>>>> definitely
    >> >>>>> like the light WMs but that launcher looks pretty neat. I
    may stick
    >> >>>>> with
    >> >>>>> 10.04 on at least one of my computers, because it is LTS,
    but I
    >> >>>>> think I'll
    >> >>>>> probably like to check out that eco.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> I tried to watch this video, but I get no sound. The other on
    >> >>>>> worked. Does
    >> >>>>> anyone know what the difference in the sound is? I'd like
    to hear
    >> >>>>> what they
    >> >>>>> are saying in this video.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Chris Louden
    >> >>>>> <ch...@chrislouden.com <mailto:ch...@chrislouden.com>>
    >> >>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> The file manager is still nautilus. However the launcher
    >> >>>>>> incorporates
    >> >>>>>> its own interface for accessing recent files and searching.
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGoWNZUqLfA
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> -Chris
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Jeff Lasman
    >> >>>>>> <jpli...@nobaloney.net <mailto:jpli...@nobaloney.net>>
    >> >>>>>> wrote:
    >> >>>>>> > On Tuesday, October 26, 2010 04:28:27 pm Chris Louden
    wrote:
    >> >>>>>> >
    >> >>>>>> >> http://vimeo.com/12818039
    >> >>>>>> >>
    >> >>>>>> >> Here is an video that gives you the over all idea. It
    borrows
    >> >>>>>> >> from OSX
    >> >>>>>> >> and Gnome as you will see.
    >> >>>>>> >
    >> >>>>>> > This is just for the launcher; nothing about the
    file-manager.
    >> >>>>>> >  If this
    >> >>>>>> > is all
    >> >>>>>> > it is I'm certainly willing to look at it.
    >> >>>>>> >
    >> >>>>>> > Jeff
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