1. OK, I mistook your meaning.  In fact, the remote server I want to
use (smtp-server.satx.rr.com, whihc belongs to my ISP) does not
require authentication.  Kmail, per my instructions, was using that
server.  You are saying sendmail, using its internal protocols, is
trying to transfer mail into my ISP therough server which have their
own ISP IP blocked (presumably because mail for any domain from within
their IP block should not be coming from an external address), is that
correct?

2. OK, great!  I was unaware of ssmtp.  The default on the machine was
EXIM-4, as I recall.  I use sendmail on my HP-UX servers, but there
the IP is within the server's IP block, so I had not run into this
problem before.

3. I was sending the mail to two accounts, one was Time Warner and the
other was my business account, but both were failing.  I don't have a
Gmail account.

You're right, ssmtp seems to be working.  I need to do a little
tweaking, but the messages are coming through.  Thanks!

On Dec 27, 11:58 am, "Daniel Eggleston" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1. This can be, and indeed is, the case.  Your computer (regardless of what
> you are trying to do), is creating an email and sending it.  Not negotiating
> smtp login with the remote server. KMail negotiates the login to prove you
> are who you say you are.  I know Time Warner is your ISP because of the
> error regarding spamhaus; it's how I came up with that info.
>
> 2. sendmail belongs to an MTA, there are many that provide the "sendmail"
> command. For example, ssmtp is an MTA app which negotiates a login with a
> remote smtp server, instead of formatting and sending the email on the local
> machine.  Perhaps you should look into ssmtp or similar.
>
> 3. Send the email to a non-Time-Warner-ISP account (i.e. your Gmail
> account). The ISP has (and will continue) to reject emails originating from
> your IP address (this is different from logging into their SMTP server).
> Gmail seems to be more open to allowing emails than Time Warner (they are
> not using spamhaus, for example).
>
> Try ssmtp; I think you'll be much happier.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:34 PM, lrhorer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > 1. This cannot be the case, since Time Warner is my ISP, and I can
> > send the e-mail from this workstation using Kmail.
>
> > 2. The whole point of my query here is to get sendmail to use the smtp-
> > server.satx.rr.com as its transfer agent.
>
> > 3. If you are talking about the recipient, then exactly where else
> > should I send this, other than my own mail?
>
> > On Dec 27, 6:41 am, "Daniel Eggleston" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > You are doiomed.
>
> > > No, seriously, spamhaus has blocked your whole Time Warner IP Block from
> > > sending email, and evidently your ISP uses spamhaus's blacklist to reject
> > > IP's trying to send mail (in an effort to reduce spam).
>
> > > see here:http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL238298
>
> > > I think your best bet is to pick someplace else to send the mail - I have
> > a
> > > tendency to send any alert-type emails like this straight to my gmail
> > > account, and it seems to work great.  So try that and see if you are
> > > successful.  If you are, it is your ISP and there is nothing you can do
> > to
> > > fix this.
>
> > > On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:58 AM, lrhorer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I put a FQDN in /etc/hosts, which got rid of the FQDN errors, but it
> > > > didn't help the overall situation.  If I try:
>
> > > > echo This is a test ^d | mail -v -a 
> > > > FROM:[email protected]<from%[email protected]>
> > <from%[email protected] <from%[email protected]>>
> > > > [email protected]
>
> > > > I get:
> > > > [email protected]... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay...
> > > > 220 RAID-Server ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5; Sat, 27 Dec
> > > > 2008 02:48:46 -0600; (No UCE/UBE) logging access from: localhost(OK)-
> > > > sm...@localhost [127.0.0.1]
> > > > >>> EHLO RAID-Server.nowhere.com
> > > > 250-RAID-Server Hello sm...@localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
> > > > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> > > > 250-PIPELINING
> > > > 250-EXPN
> > > > 250-VERB
> > > > 250-8BITMIME
> > > > 250-SIZE
> > > > 250-DSN
> > > > 250-ETRN
> > > > 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
> > > > 250-DELIVERBY
> > > > 250 HELP
> > > > >>> VERB
> > > > 250 2.0.0 Verbose mode
> > > > >>> MAIL From:<[email protected]> SIZE=68 AUTH=
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > 250 2.1.0 <[email protected]>... Sender ok
> > > > >>> RCPT To:<[email protected]>
> > > > >>> DATA
> > > > 250 2.1.5 <[email protected]>... Recipient ok
> > > > 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
> > > > >>> .
> > > > 050 <[email protected]>... Connecting to cdptpa-
> > > > smtpin01.mail.rr.com. via esmtp...
> > > > 050 554 5.7.1 - ERROR: Mail refused - <70.114.21.59> - See
> > > >http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=70.114.21.59
> > > > 050 >>> QUIT
> > > > 050 <[email protected]>... Connecting to cdptpa-
> > > > smtpin02.mail.rr.com. via esmtp...
> > > > 050 <[email protected]>... Closing connection to cdptpa-
> > > > smtpin01.mail.rr.com.
> > > > 050 554 5.7.1 - ERROR: Mail refused - <70.114.21.59> - See
> > > >http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=70.114.21.59
> > > > 050 >>> QUIT
> > > > 050 <[email protected]>... Connecting to raid-
> > > > server.nowhere.com. via esmtp...
> > > > 050 <[email protected]>... Deferred: Connection refused by
> > > > raid-server.nowhere.com.
> > > > 250 2.0.0 mBR8mkiQ009058 Message accepted for delivery
> > > > [email protected]... Sent (mBR8mkiQ009058 Message accepted for
> > > > delivery)
> > > > Closing connection to [127.0.0.1]
> > > > >>> QUIT
> > > > 221 2.0.0 RAID-Server closing connection
>
> > > > On Dec 26, 3:59 pm, "Daniel Eggleston" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Well, the FQDN errors can be fixed by making up an extension for your
> > > > > hostname (i.e. RAID-Server.not.important will work).  As for actually
> > > > using
> > > > > sendmail, I have a debian system, and it "Just works".  I type "mail
> > > > > [email protected]" and it asks for the subject and body, and it
> > sends,
> > > > > arriving in my inbox faster than I can switch windows and click
> > refresh.
>
> > > > > So, sorry, but my only experience with sendmail is as described, I've
> > > > never
> > > > > delved any deeper.
>
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 3:30 PM, lrhorer <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Oh, and no, I don't have a machine with an smtp server on the LAN.
>
> > > > > > On Dec 26, 6:40 am, "Daniel Eggleston" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > I think KMail talks to the SMTP server; without sendmail.  Unless
> > you
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > the option to use sendmail instead...
> > > > > > > Do you know for a fact that the emails are not leaving the
> > server?
> > > > Maybe
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > ISP is dropping them (i.e. if your 'from' address is a verified
> > host
> > > > like
> > > > > > > yahoo, they may not accept the email from non-yahoo ip's.)  Do
> > you
> > > > have a
> > > > > > > machine on the local network with an smtp server so you could try
> > > > sending
> > > > > > > there?
>
> > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 4:54 AM, lrhorer <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Merry Christmas, everyone.
>
> > > > > > > > I have mdadm set up managing an array, and I want to have it
> > send
> > > > e-
> > > > > > > > mail to my ISPs SMTP server when an event occurs.  I know the
> > basic
> > > > > > > > method for creating an e-mail using --follow, but I can't get
> > the
> > > > e-
> > > > > > > > mails to actually leave the server.  I think I have sendmail
> > set up
> > > > > > > > properly - sendmail is nothing if not arcane and confusing -
> > but
> > > > the e-
> > > > > > > > mails never go anywhere.  I can fire up Kmail, and it is able
> > to
> > > > send
> > > > > > > > mail to the SMTP server.  If I have sendmail set up (and not
> > exim),
> > > > > > > > doesn't Kmail use sendmail as its mail agent?  If so then
> > sendmail
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > working.  If not, then maybe I need to take a different tack.
> >  In
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > mean time, how can I specify to which server sendmail is
> > supposeed
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > send the message?  I don't see a syntax for that or a way to
> > set it
> > > > up
> > > > > > > > in sendmail's configuration.
>
> > > > > > > --
>
> > > > > > >           Daniel
>
> > > > > --
>
> > > > >           Daniel
>
> > > --
>
> > >           Daniel
>
> --
>
>           Daniel
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