Not according to Comcrap's wording, but the legalese from other ISPs could be better-formed.
Sent from my iPod On May 1, 2009, at 8:43 AM, "J.T.F." <[email protected]> wrote: > > Public servers are prohibited. > If you have a server set up for your *personal use* and it is secured, > this should be well within the TOS. > > On Apr 30, 4:00 pm, Chris Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >> Comcrap, AT&T, Verizon, and Qwest explicitly prohibit hosting servers >> from a residential subscription. Earthlink and Speakeasy allow it. >> The upload speed of all residential connections is far too slow to >> reasonably host a website. (Verizon FIOS and AT&T U-Verse fiber >> excepted, but for them hosting is against the rules and will get you >> thrown off the network). It was this happy research which impelled >> me >> to my current hosting provider, Tektonic. >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Jeremiah Bess <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Most DSL/Cable modems allow you to set up a DMZ, that is a separate >>> part of your network that doesn't have full access to the rest of >>> your network. If you posted what model number of modem/router you >>> have, I am sure someone has experience with these to help. >> >>> I use Qwest, so I cannot confirm if Comcast blocks or does not block >>> port 80. I read a few sites through a Google search that had mixed >>> answers. It's easy enough to call them to ask, you won't get in >>> trouble. >> >>> As far as a dynamic IP, that is not an issue. I use no-ip.com, which >>> has a small program running on my linux server that updates my >>> current IP address periodically. It's easy to set up and free. There >>> is also dyndns.com as an alternative. My server hosts SSH and >>> Ventrilo, and the dynamic DNS program works like a charm to allow me >>> and my family to connect. >> >>> Jeremiah E. Bess >>> Network Ninja, Penguin Geek, Father of four >> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 13:05, Ryein <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I appreciate the comments and apologize. I feel I didn't explain as >>> well as I should my current setup. I have a linksys router >>> connecting >>> my network and the router actually has a smaller version of linux >>> installed on it. I am trying to familarize myself with the device >>> and >>> what I would have to do. From what some of you are saying is it >>> would >>> be better to route all traffice to one system? because currently I >>> have two towers on a keyboard mouse monitor switch so I can easily >>> switch between the two. I have comcast and I do believe I am not >>> technically suppose to host a server and I do believe the IP address >>> are dynamic so not sure if this creates problems with my DNS and >>> pointing my domain to my server. I can currently locally access my >>> server via web browser and php works fine with mysql. I havn't >>> worked >>> on my security much, but understand it is a major thing I will >>> have to >>> focus on. I suppose my major issue is configuring all of my IPs >>> properly with my DNS and getting a good setup to avoid dangerous >>> attacks. I will read the suggested material and if anyone has any >>> insight on router server setups I would appreciate the feedback. >> >>> I have Debian on my other box. I want to figure out how to run the >>> server properly then I will probably do a reinstall and try and work >>> on security once it is setup properly. >> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jeremiah Bess >>> <[email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> That is not a true story. If a hacker uses ssh from a hacked >>> machine to hack >>>> other machines, logs are still kept on the hacked machine to show >>> what the >>>> hacker did. If you are worried about such things, set up PKI-only >>> ssh. My >>>> ssh server at home only accepts PKI keys as authentication, no >>> passwords >>>> allowed. It's really easy to set up, and the most secure set up >>> you can use. >>>> You might also want to set up an IPS/IDS. Even something simple >>>> like >>>> tripwire, which monitors file changes can clue you in. >> >>>> But we are not talking about a commercial website. He is wanting >>> to set up a >>>> personal website. Hackers don't target personal websites. Script >>> kiddies do, >>>> only to set up a botnet or zombie host.. Make sure all patches are >>> applied, >>>> and avoid using SQL if possible, and PKI-only SSH will leave you >>> quite >>>> secure. >> >>>> Jeremiah E. Bess >>>> Network Ninja, Penguin Geek, Father of four >> >>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:26, BluesRenegade >>>> <[email protected] >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> If a hacker gets access to an account on the machine, then they >>> can use >>>>> SSH and the sys admin cannot see what they're doing because of the >>>>> encryption used on all the data passing through the SSH >>> connection, making >>>>> the hacker's activities even harder to detect. >> >>>>> Conrad Lawes wrote: >> >>>>> The key reason for using ssh over ftp is security. By default, >>>>> ssh >>>>> traffic is all encrypted. FTP, by default, transmits in clear- >>> text. >>>>> Nowadays, you can perform many tasks without going to the >>> command line >>>>> especially if you're using a distro such as Ubuntu or Fedora. >>> With tools >>>>> such as phpmyadmin, webmin, gftp, and Joomla you can perform >>> many tasks via >>>>> GUI or Web browser. Of course, it doesn't hurt to learn the CLI. >> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Chris Miller >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:01 PM, VENOM GRIM >>>>>> <[email protected] >> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I just started using Linux and wanted to enjoy it as much as >>> possible >>>>>>> so I decided to start a server to host my personal website. I >>> was >>>>>>> wondering what the first step would be to get this setup. >> >>>>>>> So far I have install Debian newest version and Apache2 PHP5 and >>>>>>> MYSQL.....I need to get my domain to point to my server and I >>> also >>>>>>> need to get FTP setup... >> >>>>>> As I *ahem* have some experience with Debian 5 and webservers... >> >>>>>> 1) Check with your ISP. Most ISPs do NOT allow you to host >>> servers of >>>>>> any kind (technically when I run a Nexuiz server I'm violating my >>>>>> ISP's usage agreement - ain't that special?) so that kicks you >>> off to >>>>>> the mercy of a hosting provider. If you're still determined to >>> learn >>>>>> how to use a full-blown Linux setup for a server, then I'd >>> suggest a >>>>>> Virtual Private Server (VPS). They're real cheap, but give you >>> all >>>>>> administrative benefits of a real, root-access Linux server. >>> They do >>>>>> not have as much RAM, and the disk I/O sucks real bad as well. >> >>>>>> 2) Learn to use the command line. 99% of the work I do with >>>>>> Linux >>>>>> nowadays (I moved to Mac OS X for all my desktop word-processing, >>>>>> coding, etc.) is through the command line. When administering a >>>>>> server, all the tutorials are for the command line. All the >>> utilities >>>>>> are for the command line. Do you see where I'm going with this? >>> The >>>>>> command line is the golden tool to get anything and everything >>> done. >> >>>>>> 3) I don't use FTP. It's slow, and I just have a general >>> dislike of >>>>>> it. I prefer to use SSH (which is even slower, but it's a lot >>> less >>>>>> irritating to get working). If you're still hell-bent on FTP, >>>>>> I'd >>>>>> suggest proftp (`apt-get install proftpd`). >> >>>>>> 4) Learn to read documentation. >>>>>> * manpages >>>>>> * google (just google - throw in the relevant keywords for >>> whatever >>>>>> you're doing, and a mess of tutorials and blogs will pop out of >>> the >>>>>> woodwork - honest!) >>>>>> * the Apache documentation (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/) is >>>>>> absolutely excellent and tells you almost everything you need to >>> know >>>>>> about how to make your website work. >> >>>>>> 5) Have fun! Every time you use Linux, you're sticking it to >>> the man! >>>>>> You're not paying the Microsoft tax, and that keeps showing >>> them that >>>>>> no, making inferior crap just doesn't cut it. >> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Registered Linux Addict #431495 >>>>>> http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman| John 3:16! >>>>>> http://www.fsdev.net/|http://www.fsdev.net/~cmiller >>>>>> Parents, Take Responsibility For Your Kids!http://www.whattheyplay.com/ >> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Conrad Lawes >> >>> -- >>> Ryein Bowling >>> 503-608-4728 >> >> > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Linux Users Group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit our group at http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
