I have no problem with Canonical being a corporation or having a business plan. I have no problem with them making an enterprise distribution. Just be straight with me so that I can make informed decisions. When you try to walk the line they you risk being neither one or the other and serving nobody but yourself.
If they are a desktop distribution then be one. If they are an enterprise one, let me know. If they are a community based distro then I am with them. If they playing me and just pretending to be something that they are not I am not amused. Right now the plans call for selling music online and other things that require the allegiance of users. If we are being misled then that throws a wrench in their plans. That's how things work. Loyalty is earned and should not be assumed. Right now there is so much confusion coming from Canonical. At UDS they decided to back F-spot and remove the GIMP and now there are reports that it is gThumb and it is the people who went to UDS that want a clarification. Basically who is making the decisions? I would like to know as a user and supporter. It is the mixed messages that are throwing people off. We need clear lines of communication and clear decisions. Flip flops serve nobody's interest. Gthumb is a better choice, but if they decided on F-spot at UDS, then how did it get over-ruled and by whom? If you are a developer you might be wondering whether it is worth participating if your decisions are going to be over turned higher up the food chain. All of these things point to a distribution in trouble which one would not think if one did not pay attention to such things. I think that it is time for some clarification. Roy 2009/12/6 Chris Miller <[email protected]> > On Dec 4, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Roy wrote: > > Ubuntu is a desktop distribution. It always has been. It is not directed > towards enterprise at present. If that is their desire then they need to > make this clear and perhaps release an enterprise edition like Novell does > with SLED. There is the issue of Mono itself with its cloudy licensing. The > Microsoft guarantee not to prosecute covers Novell and not Canonical. So if > they are aiming for enterprise they are going about it all wrong. They > should suck it up and go to Microsoft and beg forgiveness (Shuttleworth has > spurned them more than once and been outspoken about it) and sign away their > rights like Novell did. This would protect enterprise users and without such > protection they are unlikely to choose Ubuntu with its indefinite status > when they can choose Novell and be guaranteed. > > > Not necessarily in Eastern European countries which don't necessarily honor > Microsoft's patent monopolies. If Canonical wants to make money, they will > target the enterprise customers. > > It does not serve desktop users well for Canonical to be taking us down a > path that is not for us, but I don't think that is what is happening and > that enterprise is a red herring. I just think that there is some bad > decision making taking place. > > > Well duh it's not good for *you*, but you're not the primary concern. > Staying in business is Canonical's number one priority, and that means > landing support contracts from enterprise customers. Tailoring their > products to the enterprise environment is a necessary step towards that. > > The decision making is faulty, IMO and contrary to the best interests of > Linux, ESPECIALLY if you are an enterprise user. I noticed on Lucid's list > of apps that KDE base is included. A wise decision would be to get rid of > F-spot, wait on PiTiVi and to include good KDE apps to replace bad GNOME > ones, like F-spot. They should sacrifice Mono to achieve this and IF they > want enterprise users then they should definitely scrap Mono. > > > There is no "best interests of Linux." Linux is just fine. There is a > best interest of Canonical as a business, and a best interest of the fanboys > surrounding Ubuntu as a community. Guess who has the power? Canonical. > The business need will win. > > Should have stuck with something purely community driven, like Kanotix or > Debian. Or heck, even tried PC-BSD. > > Registered Linux Addict #431495 > For Faith and Family! | John 3:16! > http://cmiller.fsdev.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Linux Users > Group. > To post a message, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit our group at > http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Linux Users Group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit our group at http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup
