I got a solution to all this bickering: Run Mandriva.

Jeremiah E. Bess
Network Ninja, Penguin Geek, Father of four


On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 06:43, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think that I was disrespectful.  I was describing the
> behaviour and not an individual. I call them as I see them. It is
> ridiculous IMO to base one's own behaviour on the experiences of one
> person's past experience. You can find one squeaky wheel for just
> about anything. If you listen to them then you may be missing out on
> much as a result. However, I do apologise if you interpreted it as a
> personal attack. That was not my intent.
>
> Not everything Ubuntu is rosy. I also call that as I see it. Karmic
> was a bad release as was Jaunty, IMO. Many people were frustrated with
> continuing sound and wireless problems, but these releases also added
> the frustration of graphics card problems. I was apprehensive about
> Lucid so I tested it with more rigour than previous releases and found
> it hard to find fault. I don't care about button placement or the
> music store. I do care about performance and things working properly.
> Most sound issues and many wireless issues are behind us. I thank
> kernel developers for much of that. Canonical should be congratulated
> for implementing Plymouth and doing away with HAL with little in the
> way of problems. Plymouth introduced many potential problems as any
> Nvidia and Fedora user can attest to. The fact that HAL's removal went
> under the radar of most people confirms that this was successful.
> Plymouth gave some problems for me early on with no compositing but
> this was achieved with beta 2.
>
> There are several good reasons to install 10.04. Performance is much
> better. The new kernel gives better hardware detection and more
> drivers. Sound problems are far fewer. There are enhancements such as
> the music store, MeMenu and many newer applications plus you get three
> year support due to it being LTS. What is there not to like? Button
> placement is easily fixed BTW.
>
> I look forward to 10.10 even more in the hopes that Mono will be gone
> from the default installation. So far F-Spot is to be replaced with
> Shotwell which leaves only Tomboy and Gbrainy as the only two Mono
> apps left and Tomboy can be replaced by Gnote. That should save lots
> of CD space for other goodies!
>
> Each person needs to try out 10.04 for him or herself and make up
> their own mind. I don't like scare tactics used by some to spread FUD
> and people giving into it which is why I responded strongly.
>
> Roy
>
> On 28 May 2010 22:29, Kari Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yeah, pretty much.  I run two businesses and homeschool  two kids and
> chase
> > a toddler around while supporting my husband's farming business.
>  Schedule's
> > pretty full & I don't sleep much.   I belong to groups like this to save
> me
> > time because it's my most precious commodity.  I'm pretty smart and can
> > figure out almost anything, but time limitations make troubleshooting an
> > as-needed activity.  Screwing around w/ Linux for curiosity's sake?  That
> > was so ten years ago for me.
> > Note that I used the word *hassle* -- I believe Karmic can be installed,
> but
> > jumping needless hurdles? Nah.  Not right now.
> > I'm sure you feel differently, and I'm sure you're more respectful of
> others
> > than you came across to be in this post.
> > ~kari
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Do you roll over for everything this easily? So one person reports and
> >> bad experience and you will not upgrade? That is ludicrous. I have
> >> used Lucid since Alpha 1 and replaced Karmic with Lucid on both my
> >> systems when Beta 2 came out. It is one of the best releases from
> >> Ubuntu yet.
> >>
> >> Roy
> >>
> >> On 28 May 2010 09:08, Kari Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > I'm glad to know this.  Thanks for saving me the hassle of the
> upgrade.
> >> > ~kari
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Vyshakh <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm back to KARMIC.
> >> >> LUCID disappointed me a lot.
> >> >> Please check the attached screen shots. Do anyone face problem like
> >> >> these in Nautilus????
> >> >> These patterns and colors are irritating....
> >> >>
> >> >> One more thing...
> >> >> Even though I've installed lucid several times, I could not see the
> >> >> new boot screen completely. it was never shown fully. Sometimes the
> >> >> grub boot loader failed to install also.
> >> >>
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