Hmmm.  Don't know anything about Realtek wifi.  Since my strategy on buying 
laptops is to go to a commodity store and buy the cheapest box, preferably a 
demo with a markdown, that has decent graphics, I'm almost brand blind.  I seem 
to be on a run of HPs, and many of them have had Realtek for their wired 
ethernet, but I don't think I've run into a Realtek wireless card yet.

My biggest problem with HPs has been graphics support.  HP laptops seem to 
randomly have Nvidia and Radeon cards, and the Radeon linux drivers can 
sometimes be a little flaky -- not enough so I won't buy it if it's cheap, but 
I'll do so knowing I'll have to download the proprietary driver from ATI and 
maybe play some games with the xorg.conf file if I want to do all the fancy 
bouncy windows compiz stuff.

As I said, I'm not a big fan of the atheros cards because the current ath9k 
doesn't support MAC spoofing, and I consider that a basic part of wireless 
hygiene.  You might think about getting a usb wireless adapter, like the Alfa 
one I mentioned.  It's a bit of a hassle to carry around yet another bit of 
wire, but as a frequent traveller I've found it useful.  I have sometimes been 
in places where wireless signal was suboptimal, and it was nice to be able to 
stick my adapter on the wall or window to get a better signal, but sit wherever 
I want to do my work.  And, of course, if you have the driver for your usb 
wireless adapter, then it doesn't matter what wireless card is in the box.

In the past few years I've owned Toshibas, Acers, Gateways, HPs, and a Sager.  
Of those, the Acer was the easiest to configure, followed by the HPs followed 
by the Gateway followed by the Sager followed by the Toshiba.  However, since 
that spans about five years, it's hard to translate that to what machines are 
like *today.*  And it's not consistent.  I've had three Toshibas in that time; 
of those two were a hassle and one was a dream.

billo

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Scott Vargovich wrote:

I believe it was a realtek rtl8191se - if I remember correctly.  I couldn't 
even get it working using the Windows driver and
ndiswrapper.  I know enough about linux to be dangerous, but this one leaves me 
scratching my now bald dome from pulling my hair
out on it.

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Bill Oliver <[email protected]> wrote:

      I'm amazed that your friend can't find a driver.  I buy a new laptop 
every eight months or so (my travel habits are
      physically hard on laptops).  Since I go through them so quickly, I 
usually just go to my local WalMart/Office
      Depot/Staples and buy whatever is cheapest that has a decent graphics 
card.

      I haven't had a problem getting wifi to work in years.  What card could 
he not find a driver for?  The only issue I've
      had is that the current atheros drivers for 802.11n (ath9k) are not very 
friendly for MAC spoofing (though I hear
      that's changing), so for my current box I also carry an Alfa AWUS050NH 
whose driver is very spoof-friendly.

      I think one of your problems is that the madwifi driver, per se, is only 
for cards up to 802.11g, and will not support
      802.11n.  Thus, I'm not surprised you might have a problem with madwifi.  
Atheros chips that support 802.11n use the
      ath9k driver (which is also provided by madwifi.org) .

      In any case, my most recent box is an HP Pavilion dv7-3067cl.  It has an 
atheros chipset, but it's already a
      discontinued model.


      billo




On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Scott Vargovich wrote:

Hi there,

I have a friend who wants to buy a 64 bit laptop that one of you has had 
success installing Linux on.  His budget is
around $800.  He's returning a Toshiba Sattelite model whose internal wifi 
isn't supported at all.  I'd like to find
him one that has atheros-based wifi that madwifi recognizes without any hassle. 
 The distro we want to use is Ubuntu /
Mint.  Please reply if you've had this type of experience with the brand / make 
of the laptop.

Thanks in advance,

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