On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 05:33:59PM +1030, Ron wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 03:05:40PM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 08:49:48PM -0800, Ping wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:04:37PM -0800, Ping wrote:
> > > >> I agree with you guys for this plan since special settings of
> > > >> identical devices would (probably) have to be dealt separately in
> > > >> xorg.conf, which would have a different dev_name for each tool anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Ack.  That's pretty much how I was imagining it.
> > > > Did we decide on whether backward compatibility here is needed?
> > > 
> > > If we don't have a forward solution (as you described before) for
> > > identical devices, we would have to provide a backward solution for
> > > linuxwacom.rules in the old xorg.conf way.  I rely on both you and
> > > Peter for solutions (there is nowhere to escape once you come here :).
> > > 
> > > > What about 'list' vs '--list'?  I like the idea of `xinput list`
> > > > and `xsetwacom list` doing exactly the same thing, and not having
> > > > to remember which of them needs -- for that option...
> > > 
> > > I like "list". It saves two key presses (energy efficient :). The old
> > > xsetwacom uses "list" instead of "--list".
> > 
> > xsetwacom takes both "list" and "--list". i prefer the latter because it
> > explicitly states which part is an option and which part isn't. especially
> > when you're dealing with device names with spaces and the quotation marks
> > get stripped for whatever reason. I realize that with git and many other
> > programs, these days the -- before options isn't quite as default anymore.
> > 
> > For xsetwacom (and xinput) both options will stay so it's really up to your
> > personal preference and I don't really have a strong enough opinion to
> > actually care which one you pick :)
> 
> Ah I missed that xinput actually takes both forms.  The man page only
> documents the versions without --, and consistency with it was my only
> interest in changing this, so yeah this is a nobrainer then.

interesting. I think we might be looking at a different man page, the one
for xinput 1.5 documents all options with --.

> Ok.  So do we actually have a problem with changing the output of this?
> I think we already have from the 0.8.x series.  The current output isn't
> very friendly to people who want to use it as input for other commands.
> We can update the tools we control, which should then stay in sync with
> the xsetwacom version they are released with.
> 
> My gut feeling on this one is that we should just Do It and move on to
> the other things we need to get right for it all to work well.

I'm be in favour as well, at least a colon would be nice between the name
and the type :)

Cheers,
  Peter

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