On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Chris Bagwell <ch...@cnpbagwell.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Peter Hutterer
> <peter.hutte...@who-t.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:28:53PM +0200, Ping Cheng wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Chris Bagwell <ch...@cnpbagwell.com> wrote:
>>> > Sure, I'll jump back in once the touch-only model support is
>>> > committed.  Assuming Henrik's patch is submit, there is some things to
>>> > discuss on X side; which I will be happy to help with as well.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>
>>> > Henrik's current driver on linux-input is both MT and synaptic-like;
>>> > which is actually my preference as well but brings up important issue.
>>> >  Do we modify xf86-input-wacom to be compatible with synpatic-like
>>> > input events or do we work with distributions to develop rules to
>>> > re-direct wacom "touch" input devices over to xf86-input-synaptics?
>>>
>>> I'd like to know Peter's answer to this question. It is not purely a
>>> Wacom driver decision, I think.
>>
>> AFAICT, the device is exported as a separate device, right? If so, there's
>> no need to hook the wacom driver onto it - we just treat it as a touchpad
>> and hook the synaptics driver onto it.
>>
>
> Yes, on both Bamboo's and Tablet PC's, the exported device is nicely
> isolated.  In Bamboo's case, its very much like a standard touchpad
> (x/y/pressure+4 buttons).  For Tablet PC's, its very much like a
> buttonless touchpad.
>
> Some pros/cons for having xf86-input-synaptics handle wacom touch devices.
>
> Pros:
> * Get synaptics gesture support immediately (edge scrolling, two
> finger scrolling).
> * Get gnome-mouse-properties (and similar) GUI configuration support
> (I can finally enable Lefty mode from a GUI!)
> * It will force us to be Synaptics compatible.  This allows switching
> to xf86-input-multitouch driver and get their gestures (swipes,
> pinching, 3-fingers, etc).  Or at least it keeps us closer to
> compatible to what ever client-side gesture engines are coming up.
>
> Cons:
> * ISDV4 devices requires some touchpad logic in xf86-input-wacom
> anyways (not a code savings)
> * User would lose xf86-input-wacom's advanced button remapping.
>
> My suggestion?
>
> * Make touchpad-like wacom devices to use events that are
> synaptics-like (no multiplexing, no serial/channel #'s, change way
> BTN_TOOL_*'s are used, use MT events for 2 finger HW, etc).  This
> means specifically Bamboo and Tablet PC's.  Since Tablet PC code has
> already shipped in a kernel, we need a roadmap of how and when to
> convert over.
> * Modify xf86-input-wacom so that it can handle todays ISDV4/TabletPC
> version of touchpads and also make it compatible with synaptics-like
> touchpads.  Since its backwards/forwards compatible, that roadmap for
> TabletPC can be change it today.
> * Decide which X driver we prefer as default and then let user do any
> xorg.conf.d modifications if they prefer a specific pro/con item
> above.
>
> Chris
>

Hi,

I predict howls of anguish if the Bamboo P&T's pad (tablet buttons)
can not be programmed like every other Wacom tablet.

Dave

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