On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM, AndrewP <[email protected]> wrote:
> in isdv4-debugger shows maximum of 255 when I apply considerable force, and
> pressure increases gradually.
> while in xinput it seems to be overly sensitive and very limited in range,
> although it is scaled to 2048 anyway.
>
> I miss earlier, that in the beginning isdv4-debugger reports:
>
> TABLET: version: 992
> TABLET: x max: 26312 y max 16520
> TABLET: tilt_x max: 0 tilt_y max 0
> TABLET: pressure max: 127
>
> which means,  what I did was insufficient, when put "common -> wcmMaxZ =
> 255;" in wcmISVD4.c

Right.  So as long as common->wcmMaxZ is allowed to be 127,
xf86-input-wacom will think your apply twice the pressure you really
are.  So at 50% pressure, it will read 2048 in xinput.

Hardcoding to 255 in wcmISDV4.c and giving a higher wcmThreshold
should resolve a lot of your false clicks.  But you were getting some
"bursts" of high pressures in the other log (50% pressure almost)
before touching the tablet.  I do not know how to resolve that issue.

Chris

>
> here's rest of the isdv4-debugger output: http://dpaste.org/FzTo/
>
> I noticed one more thing, when I get "false" clicks, except increasing
> pressure and letter "p", letter "t" also appears.
> I guess it means "touch"? so driver registers touch event, on my pen only
> tablet.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 19:09, Chris Bagwell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Please forgive if you've mentioned this aready... we follow lots of
>> different issues and on lots of different projects so its easy to loss
>> information.
>>
>> Can you be specific on how isdv4-debugger indicates no issues?
>>
>> Do you mean it reports pressure ranges 0-255?  I think your log files
>> showed that was basically being received with xf86-input-wacom as
>> well.  In this case, one of problems is simply scaling from expected
>> 127 values up to 2048 will obviously give you inflated pressure values
>> if hardware is really sending 255 values.  Telling it to scale from
>> 255 to 2048 will require more pressure before you get the click.
>>
>> Or are you saying that isdv4-debugger reports a maximum pressure of
>> 255 yet xf86-input-wacom reports only 127?  They both use extremely
>> similar code and sequences so I suspect by both report maximum of 127.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:46 AM, AndrewP <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > It didn't help to my senses. But tell me why tempering with ISDV4 could
>> > help
>> > if isdv4-debugger indicates no apparent troubles?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 17:31, Chris Bagwell <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You might try modifying the wcmISDV4.c file and force the setting of
>> >> common->wcmMaxZ to be 256 and play around with the tablet to see if it
>> >> works better for you.
>> >>
>> >> These values are coming straight from tablet so not sure why it would
>> >> be reporting 127 is its max but giving you values above that range.
>> >>
>> >> If forcing it to 256 doesn't help your usability then it may not be
>> >> worth continuing.
>> >>
>> >> If it does help then we could do some sort of tablet version detection
>> >> and hard code in software I guess.  It should help at least a little
>> >> because it won't scale up to 2048 pressure range quite so fast.
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM, AndrewP <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Also my top priority is pressure level's range. This pen got only 256
>> >> > level
>> >> > which are displayed in isdv4-debugger properly. And I have only half
>> >> > of
>> >> > it
>> >> > in X. As you probably remember xinput maxed to 2048, when
>> >> > isdv4-debugger
>> >> > showed around 100.
>> >> > I mean isdv4-debugger shows sense to me, so why it should be a
>> >> > hardware
>> >> > issue?
>> >> > if we deal with just that I would be mostly happy, because this
>> >> > "false
>> >> > click", I guess, appear because some noise is scaled and goes beyond
>> >> > a
>> >> > threshold. Even in this case I don't see the much, and using tablet
>> >> > as
>> >> > my
>> >> > only mouse on this PC.
>> >> > So it is mostly usable as mouse input. Tablet input is unusable for
>> >> > me.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:00, AndrewP <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Peter, it might be default, but in Gentoo here, I use my own USE
>> >> >> flags
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> compile everything with different settings.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Chris, seems I didn't make it clear, but in this log I tried to show
>> >> >> several cases:
>> >> >> 1. false clicks
>> >> >>  a. when I move the tip close but don't touch (there are about 1-2mm
>> >> >> left)
>> >> >>  b. when I tilt the pen very steeply (as I would do with crayon) and
>> >> >> get
>> >> >> it close
>> >> >> 2. usual strokes
>> >> >> 3. and similar with eraser
>> >> >>  a. false when just touch without any actual pressure
>> >> >>  b. usual stroke
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ping,I understand why you implying that hardware has some issues,
>> >> >> I've
>> >> >> begun to think so myself,  because
>> >> >> I didn't really tried the tablet in Windows in the beginning. And
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> checked it there it was kind of a huge relief,
>> >> >> because I got that problem from the first day I've got this Tablet
>> >> >> PC,
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> I'm talking about brand new PC out of the box.
>> >> >> I never actually used the tablet here, because I can't work with it
>> >> >> considering the issues.
>> >> >> I mean I have new pen, and I've already tried changing tips (even
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> Intuos pen, to a one with spring in it), so it mustn't be
>> >> >>  wear or dust.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 02:21, Peter Hutterer
>> >> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 07:33:00PM +0000, AndrewP wrote:
>> >> >>> > I get this messages when trying
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > xsetwacom set stylus debuglevel 12
>> >> >>> > Property 'Wacom Debug Levels' does not exist on device.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > xsetwacom set stylus commondbg 12
>> >> >>> > Property 'Wacom Debug Levels' does not exist on device.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > how come debug isn't available?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ./configure --enable-debug --<other options you used>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> though this should be default now. also, I recommend to always use
>> >> >>> device
>> >> >>> names instead of device IDs. the ids may change, names stay the
>> >> >>> same
>> >> >>> across
>> >> >>> reboots.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Cheers,
>> >> >>>  Peter
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 19:16, Ping Cheng <[email protected]>
>> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:52 PM, AndrewP <[email protected]>
>> >> >>> > > wrote:
>> >> >>> > > > Happened to boot to Win7 again, and must notice it is wholly
>> >> >>> > > > different
>> >> >>> > > > experience there. Any luck with our driver?
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > I found another pen only serial tablet PC (another Toshiba
>> >> >>> > > system). I
>> >> >>> > > installed Fedora 13 on it. Then I upgraded xf86-input-wacom to
>> >> >>> > > the
>> >> >>> > > git
>> >> >>> > > repo. I still do not see the issue you are seeing.
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > Since we are using different hardwares, I would wish it is a
>> >> >>> > > hardware
>> >> >>> > > issue if you didn't try it on Windows.
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > Can you turn the debug on ("xsetwacom set stylus debuglevel 12"
>> >> >>> > > and
>> >> >>> > > "xsetwacom set stylus commondbg 12") and trace the log messages
>> >> >>> > > in
>> >> >>> > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there is anything suspecious?
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > I didn't give up. I just have no clue where your problem lies.
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > > Ping
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
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