Joel,

Certainly I agree that the text in [LISP] addresses some of the basics
of handling overlapping
prefixes.  I had thought that one point of LISP was to avoid needing
to renumber; I believe that in
a similar case with IPv4 addresses today, it's not unusual to get the
smaller prefix announced.

However, in response to more detailed questions, I keep hearing back
assumptions or things
that have been discussed on the list and are not captured in a draft.

For a protocol like LISP, there are clearly many operational details
and assumptions to be agreed
upon and that need to be consistent.  Last time I looked at the
deployment draft, I didn't notice
them captured anywhere.

Are there plans for such a draft?

Alia


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]> wrote:
> The normal situation is that an EID block is delegated to an administrative
> authority (a company).  They use it.
> They may use the main block, and use some sub-blocks.  That produces "holes"
> which are overlapping prefixes.  The handling of that is described in the
> document.  The ETRs which are responsible for the covering EID prefix must
> know which blocks are allocated elsewhere.
> They have to identify those in the response.
>
> THe details are spelled out.
>
> The normal case would be that the division that was sold would be renumbered
> into its own or its new parents EID block.  After all, they are no longer
> part of the original site.  The overlapping prefix mechanisms allow for
> transition.
>
> The more extreme case is not permitted.  You can not have a LISP EID block,
> within which there is a hole which is used as IP addresses but not as LISP
> EIDs.  (The inner portion can be used as both, but it has to be an EID.)
>
> Yours,
> Joel
>
> On 6/22/2011 6:32 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
>>
>> Dino,
>>
>> Thanks for your responses - mine are in-line below.
>>
>> Alia
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Dino Farinacci<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
> ...
>>>
>>> If the site has an EID-prefix of the /16 that is the one it Map-Replies
>>> for.
>>> We have rules in section 6.1.5 "EID-to-RLOC UDP Map-Reply Message" on how
>>> to
>>> send Map-Replies when there are overlapping EID-prefixes and there has
>>> been
>>> much discussion on this mailing list about it.
>>
>> I agree that there's been lots of discussion on the list.  Capturing
>> the decisions made
>> into the draft would be good practice, IMHO, and ensure it has been
>> resolved.
>>
>> Can an ETR have an prefix which has a hole in it?  What happens if the
>> ETR does not
>> know the correct RLOCs to use for that hole (since it isn't owned)?
>>
>> I'm thinking of a case where initially there is a LISP site with a
>> /16.  Then, part of that
>> company is sold along with the /24 that is used in that division.
>> Now, can the original
>> site advertise the /16 with a hole?  How would it do that?
>>
>> The problem here is that the ETR does NOT KNOW the correct locator-set
>> for the /24 hole
>> that has been sold off.
>>
>>
>
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