Hi All,
the definition of LSB as of the to-be-soon-rfc lisp specification is:
LISP Locator Status Bits (LSBs): When the L-bit is also set, the
locator status bits field in the LISP header is set by an ITR to
indicate to an ETR the up/down status of the Locators in the
source site.
I think that this clears Damien's question since LSB has no "reachability"
meaning, rather it is a message from the site telling "from my perspective ETR
X is up and running".
(BTW this may help debugging, since if the ETR is running but not reachable
from the outside this clearly shows that the problem is along the path
somewhere. Yeah… could be a long path… but it is still useful information).
The main concern is about security. Obviously LSB can be easily spoofed in a
public environment and this is documented in section 6.4.1 of the
draft-ietf-lisp-threats, which recommends:
Locator Status Bits can be blindly trusted only in secure
environments. In the general unsecured Internet environment, the
safest practice for xTRs is to confirm the status change
through the mapping system.
So IMHO the thing to do is to simply put a reference to the lisp-threats draft
about the use of LSBs.
ciao
Luigi
On 22 Jan. 2013, at 04:15 , Dino Farinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
> They have the same meaning in all environment. It is a question when they
> should be verified. An LSB that changes in a public environment can cause a
> Map-Request to be sent and a signed Map-Reply can verify the LSB in an
> authenticated matter.
>
> Dino
>
> On Jan 21, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Ronald Bonica <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dino,
>>
>> But isn't it troubling that the bits have one meaning in a controlled
>> environment and another in the great-wide Internet?
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>> Dino Farinacci
>>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 5:51 PM
>>> To: Noel Chiappa
>>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; lisp-
>>> [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [lisp] Should we use Locator-Status-Bits in Internet
>>> deployment?
>>>
>>>> (I don't remember off the top of my head why I didn't like them: I
>>>> think it was a combination of the fixed number of bits, the fact that
>>>> it might be difficult for ETR X to know the state of ETR Y, the fact
>>>> that 'reachable from ITR A' [which you _really_ need to have anyway]
>>>> is a subset of 'up', etc, etc. But we didn't desperately need the
>>>> header bits, and the mechanism wasn't positively harmful, so I didn't
>>>> bother to put up a big fight over it... :-)
>>>
>>> Maybe because they could be spoofed?
>>>
>>> But they are good in control environments to take ETRs out of service
>>> without having to update the mapping database.
>>>
>>> Dino
>>>
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