> Dino,
> 
> Sorry for the delay, I see this proposition just now.
> 
> Do you propose this capability in the context of VPN and/or NSC?

I didn't have anything specific in mind. I just wanted an ITR/ETR pair to know 
if they could do a feature and what to do if one supported the feature and the 
other one did not.

> I would have a question, if there is capability, it means that there
> is a possibility to meet no capability so in this case what is
> replied?  An record with 0 locators?  no answer?  a special answer

Always reply, but state what you support so the capabilities bits can be 
compared at the ITR to see what is in common.

> saying "bad luck no match for the capability"?  If 0 locators then it

There is always a baseline for what you support. That is what is in RFC 6830. 
So if an ITR wanted Geo-Coordinates returned in a RLOC-record, and the ETR did 
not support that, it would return an RLOC-record with a single-tuple (with just 
an AFI-encoded RLOC address) versus the two-tuple (with the AFI-encoded RLOC 
address and the LCAF-encoded Geo-Coordinates). And then the ITR would just 
encapsulate to the RLOC as it does today.

> is a negative reply but conceptually this is not a negative reply.  If
> no answer, then the requester will keep continuing sending requests.
> If a new message, what kind of message?

There is no need for a new message. That would complicate matters and create 
more combinations to deal with when receiving responses.

Dino

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Damien Saucez
> 
> On 12 Sep 2013, at 20:29, Dino Farinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> So wouldn't be useful if an ITR which sends a Map-Request to the mapping 
>> system, could say "I know Mr. ETR that you have registered a bunch of stuff 
>> to the mapping system, but can you return just the stuff I care about and 
>> more importantly the stuff I support in my implementation?".
>> 
>> So I was thinking (and talking to several others about this), if we could 
>> have a Capabilities Type LCAF that is encoded in an address field of the 
>> Map-Request. I would like to propose that it get encoded in the ITR-RLOCs 
>> field of a Map-Request. This way, each ITR in the ITR-RLOCs list could tell 
>> a Map-Replier what they support.
>> 
>> I would propose that the Capabilities Type LCAF be encoded as a bit-string. 
>> Where each bit position indicates the LCAF Type value. We would have 2 
>> fields, an EID field and a RLOC field so it can be conveyed which Types are 
>> supported for EID encoded fields or RLOC encoded fields in any LISP control 
>> message.
>> 
>> It would be required of every implementation to support the Capabilities 
>> Type LCAF if nothing else would be supported. That would get the 
>> implementations to do the general parsing work so they could skip over LCAFs 
>> they don't understand and get to the ones they do understand while conveying 
>> what they support.
>> 
>> Also I find that this may be useful for this world of multiple 
>> encapsulations. Rather than register UDP port numbers, a decapsulator could 
>> convey what encapsulations it supports (i.e. L3-LISP, L2-LISP, VXLAN, NVGRE, 
>> IPsec, GRE, whatever-new-thing-nv03-comes-up-with).
>> 
>> The Capabilities Type LCAF could also be used by the mapping system. So when 
>> an ETR sends an Info-Request, an Info-Reply from the map-server could tell 
>> the registering system what LCAFs it supported. Ditto, for asking 
>> map-resolvers what types of EID encodings they could support (maybe the 
>> mapping system can support more LCAF encodings then the map-resolvers, so 
>> you can choose a different map-resolver if you wanted more).
>> 
>> And arguably, the Capabilities Type LCAF could be put in RLOC-probes. It 
>> could go anywhere with the address you wanted to encode as a 2-tuple.
>> 
>> Comments?
>> 
>> If people are interested I can draft up the details for the -03 version. Or 
>> if you think we should post the -03 version just with the current changes, I 
>> can do that. And also comment if you think we should go with the JSON Data 
>> Model Type for -03 or put it into -04 with perhaps this Capabilities LCAF.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dino
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