Hi Luigi,

Yes, Adrian also picked up on the "typically" for EID and RLOC and the
proposed response fixes that as well as the BGP issues.

I don't recall seeing the "oh, routers can just do with with a software
upgrade" claim fixed.

Regards,
Alia


On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Luigi Iannone <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Alia
>
> thanks for the review.
>
> I have just one comment right in the middle of your review.
>
> > On 05 Mar 2015, at 16:14, Alia Atlas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Alia Atlas has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-lisp-introduction-12: Discuss
> >
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> > introductory paragraph, however.)
> >
> >
> > Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
> > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
> >
> >
> > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
> > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-introduction/
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > DISCUSS:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I support Adrian's discuss.  In a similar vein:
> >
> > In Sec 3.2: Please either remove the claim of "Such LISP capable
> > routers, in most cases, only require a software upgrade." or explain
> > how you can justify the need to add and remove new encapsulations and
> > handle the various flag triggers and caching at line rate.  There is
> > no need for such marketing in this document.
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > 1) Sec 1, second paragraph:
> >   "LISP creates two separate namespaces, EIDs (End-host IDentifiers)
> > and
> >   RLOCs (Routing LOCators), both are typically syntactically identical
> >   to the current IPv4 and IPv6 addresses."
> >
> >   What does "typically" mean?  As far as I'm aware, they are
> >   syntactically identical.  This is reiterated in Sec 3.2; are you just
> >   trying to preserve the point of architectural freedom?  I've found
> > the
> >   third instance of insisting that the EID or RLOC now is only
> > "typically"
> >   an IPv4 or IPv6 address. Please lose "typically".  Minorly, the ,
> >   before both should be a ;.
> >
>
> I think that the changes the authors already proposed to Adrian fix the
> above Discuss and comments.
> Can you check if I am correct?
>
> From this point down is just typos/grammar, so authors will easily fix
> your helpful comments
>
> thanks again
>
> ciao
>
> L.
>
>
>
>
>
> > 2) top paragraph of p.4:
> >  "The initial motivation in the LISP effort is to be found in the
> >   routing scalability problem [RFC4984], where, if LISP is completely
> >   deployed, the Internet core is populated with RLOCs while Traffic
> >   Engineering mechanisms are pushed to the Mapping System."
> >
> >   Instead of "LISP is completely deployed" to "LISP were to be
> >   completely deployed" - making it subjunctive.
> >
> > 3) Last paragraph in Sec 1:
> >   "This document describes the LISP architecture, its main
> >   operational mechanisms as its design rationale."
> >
> >   I think you mean
> >
> >   "This document describes the LISP architecture and its main
> >   operational mechanisms as well as its design rationale."
> >
> > 4) In Sec 3.1, second paragraph:
> >   "Locator/Identifier split: By decoupling the overloaded semantics
> >      of the current IP addresses the Internet core can be assigned
> >      identity meaningful addresses and hence, can use aggregation to
> >      scale."
> >   I assume that you mean "topologically meaningful addresses" instead
> >   of "identity meaningful addresses".
> >
> >
>
>
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