>> Rather than make references, can you say what you think the issue is?
> 
> LISP’s data plane is a UDP tunnel, and as such there are congestion control 
> issues that must be considered. LISP inplementors and deployers using LISP to 
> carry a mix of traffic that is not predominantly 

Could you finish your sentence. 

I am not sure what more we can say. There is an depth discussion about DSCP 
fields and how to use ECN. Basically copies the inner values to the outer 
header equiv values.

> 
>>> (2) This is not transport-specific. Reading the document, it struck me that 
>>> the
>>> design of the protocol has a few inherently unsafe features related to the 
>>> fact
>>> that its wire image is neither confidentiality- nor integrity-protected. I
>>> think that all of the potential DDoS and traffic focusing attacks I could 
>>> come
>>> up with in the hour I spent reviewing the document are indeed mentioned in 
>>> the
>>> security considerations section, but as the security considerations section
>>> does not give any practical mitigation for dataplane overload attacks, it 
>>> seems
>>> to be saying that RLOC addresses shouldn't be Internet-accessible, which as 
>>> I
>>> understand it is not the point of LISP. I haven't seen a secdir review on 
>>> this
>>> document yet, but I'd encourage the authors to do everything it asks.
>> 
>> RFC 8061 goes along with RFC6830bis. It addresses data-plane confidentiality.
> 
> I haven’t read 8061 yet, but I probably should before continuing this thread.
> 
> I will say that I’m far less concerned about LISP header confidentiality than 
> I am about LISP header integrity, given the opportunities for on-path 
> meddling and off-path spoofing. If the common solution to both is something 
> like sticking everything on the ITR-ETR path in IPSec then this is less of a 
> concern.

Well RFC8061 does AEAD on the payload. All data *after* the LISP header. The 
encryption is a more integrated model than IPsec, so we can be more efficient 
by not using extra IP headers and extra control/key exchange protocols.

> 
>> 
>>> nit: Section 7.1. para 7 should note that the ICMPv6 message sent is called
>>> Packet Too Big, not Unreachable/Frag Needed.
>> 
>> We used “Packet Too Big” for all ICMP messages including IPv4 and hence we 
>> received comments about it on how it should change it to Network 
>> Unreachable. I will fix this for IPv6.
> 
> Yeah, this is the one place where i noticed a rough edge on supporting v4 and 
> v6. Thanks.

Fixed. Submitted a new revision a few hours ago.

Dino


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