On Fri, May 15, 1998 at 01:08:03AM -0700, Carl Page wrote:
> Thanks for informing us of the concern. We are careful to always subscribe
> to lists under the name listsaver-of-<listname>@findmail.com which is
> the best way to contact the list manager in advance to request permission.
It is most emphatically *NOT* the best way to contact the list manager,
especially when one considers that many mailing lists use automated
subscription agents. The best way to contact the list manager is to
read the list's documentation/announcement/web site/etc. and discover
the address of the list manager.
> There is litte more we can do without being accused of spamming the list
> or the list managers.
Well, it's quite obvious that sending mail to the entire list would
be incorrect, since it would reach N people, N-1 of which cannot help you.
But contacting list managers *individually* is not spamming.
I'd note in passing, however, that if you are running a site whose
model is ineffective without spamming, that you should seriously
reconsider the operation of that site.
> To avoid lists being archived, the best bet is to use the industry
> standard tag all responsible archive sites obey, X-NO-ARCHIVE: Yes.
No, it's not. You should not archive any lists or messages which you
have not been specifically authorized to. To do otherwise violates
the copyright of the list owner as well as the individual posters.
In other words, you've got it backwards: we, the list managers and
list contributors, should not have to stop you from doing something;
you should ask permission *first* and not proceed unless you have it.
> In any case we are always willing to delete archives at the managers
> request, and we allow message posters to delete their postings
> automatically even once they are in the archives, using the personal
> message removal systmem.
What security/authentication measures do you have in place to ensure
that the person requesting deletion of an archive/individual message
is in fact a the person responsible for that archive/individual message?
How do you *effectively* notify every single person whose list/messages
have been archived?
---Rsk
Rich Kulawiec
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
