Stephanie wrote:
> 
> I'm going on positive feedback.  Wish I had a negative one to show
> you, but like I said, they're uncommon.

Feedback is irrelevant to the points I'm discussing.  

> I dropped your list because I went and checked your list archive and
> it looked like the list had gone idle.

That's fine.  I don't mind.  The archive hasn't been updated.  :-) It
still gets about 25,000 page views a day, though.  :-) It was my
responsibility to reply to your requests if I wanted to be sure I
stayed.

> > Why is that a problem?  Just drop their lists.  Especially now that
> > you list lists unsolicited, why do they have any obligation to update
> > on request?  
> 
> They don't have any obligation.  I never said they do.

My apologies, I misunderstood what you meant by "a problem".  An
annoyance, sure.

> > info for all the recipes" "why doesn't the email address work", "why
> > won't you do xyq".  Etc.  I just ignore them.  They can ask, I don't
> > have to respond.  
> 
> I have a recipe archive too, so I know how that goes (although like
> the PAML, feedback on the recipes archive is overwhelmingly positive).

Oh, sure, my feedback is overwhelmingly positive as well.  But since
my point was the feedback doesn't always determine whether something
is appropriate, I didn't mention it.  Except to acknowledge that there
are folks out there that seem to expect others to do free work for
them.  You get them, I get them.  We delete them.  The positive
comments go in my "thanks" folder.  :-) I wish I had the time to
respond to more of these, but they do mostly go unanswered.  :-(

> Are you to say my verification requests fall in the same catagory?

Nope, especially not for lists who requested to be in the PAML (like
me). As for unsolicited lists, well, I don't have a good answer yet.
Right now it's not a big deal.  But if I got 1000 such requests a day
from sites that were PAML copycats and listed me without my request?
I dunno, I might feel different.  As it is most of your lists are
there by request (yes?) so you have every right to send a verification
request and it's a great courtesy that you do do it.  

> Recipes don't become outdated and then inconvenience people as a
> result.

Which is why I can get away with not updating my mailing list archive
(which mainly serves as a recipe archive). :-)

BTW, I listed in PAML and only there because you run it and I think
you do a good job.

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Michelle Dick       [EMAIL PROTECTED]       East Palo Alto, CA
          Owner, FATFREE Vegetarian Mailing List

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