I had written,

| >Very possible, Marc.  After all, they were clueless enough to select such
| >software in the first place.

Marc Haber rejoined,

| Hey, Exchange isn't _that_ bad if configured correctly.

OK, then, the mail admins were clueless enough to select Lotus Notes or to
misconfigure Exchange.

Whatever, all the lists I've run have been for non-business purposes, and it
took only one time that I got burned (I asked a site's postmaster about my
trouble reaching a subscriber there and the subscriber raised hell with me
for jeopardizing his job by ratting him out to management for what I didn't
know to be misuse of his email access) for me to learn that when subscribers
at corporate or university accounts can't be reached or their mailers cause
problems, to cut them off instead of opening a can of worms.

Subscribers at retail ISPs are another story; they're paying for their access
and are entitled to get their email.  But employees and students getting free
email can't be choosers.

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