On 7 Jun 00, at 16:34, Istvan Berkeley wrote:

> ...I think
> that RFC 1855 is misleading here. The issue is really one about
> copyright.... My understanding is that, for the purposes of the
> law e-mail should be treated like a letter. If I send a (private)
> letter, or e-mail to you, whilst you own the physical object (or virtual
> object in the case of e-mail), I would still hold the copyright on the
> content. 

I asked about 'netiquette' and tried to leave aside the question of 
whether it was *LEGAL* to forward a message on to other forums....  
not because it is an uninteresting or unimportant aspect of the 
question, but for two reasons:

1) AFAIK it has *NEVER* been tested in court, and so when you say 
"should be treated like a letter" I'm pretty sure that you [or your 
legal-advisor] is just guessing/analogizing.  And because email is 
used for so many things [and indeed, private email will almost 
certainly if/when the law gets around to dealing with it, be 
addressed separately from email sent knowingly and intentionally to 
an unrestricted public forum] I think that the final 'analogy' will 
end up being a LOT more complicated than just 'like a letter'.

2) Apart from copyrights and the matter of 'fair use' there's a 
secondary question of implied-license.  When an author chooses to 
'broadcast' their work to an unrestricted public forum, they have 
_clearly_ conceded *some* copying-rights.  But exactly which rights?  
And to whom?  And under what circumstances?

And we have thrashed that out some [and it does surface again from 
time to time as moderators claim "compilation copyrights" and such], 
but I was really asking the somewhat "squishier" question --- if you 
will, it is the _precursor_ to deciding what the law ought to say: 
thinking about what's "right" and "proper"...


And I didn't really weigh in with my thinking on this [I just tossed 
out the 'teaser'], so let me rectify tha:  I said that I thought it 
improper to repost without permission... I have two reasons why:

1) public is not necessarily public.  A person might dislike or 
disapprove of some forums, or have bad blood with some of its 
participants or for any or no reason NOT want their stuff to appear 
_there_ [even if they might be otherwise mellow about its being 
reposted someplace else].  If you don't ask permission the author 
doesn't get the chance to inform you of their preferences.

2) The person is separated from the discussion [and perhaps debate!] 
engendered by their reposted comments.  This seems pretty unfair -- 
they don't have a chance to defend themselves, to correct 
misconceptions, to answer and expand on questions that arise.  
Someone commented about how it is inappropriate to put in a prologue 
"Look at what this idiot said...", but even without the prologue, 
posting the words themselves in a 'hostile' forum might get the same 
reaction.

  /Bernie\
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