At 10:40 PM -0700 6/14/00, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>above.net has (fairly recently, as far as I can tell),

Russ is right: it has been true for a long time.

As someone who now colocates at above.net, I was pretty surprised 
when I heard about this recently, given that I've been at above.net 
for nine months. The fact that they use the RBL isn't mentioned 
anywhere in my colo contact, but it is mentioned in the text of one 
of the URLs in the contract.

Having said that, I still don't know how I feel about it. On the one 
hand, like Chuq, I wouldn't choose to use the RBL, and even briefly 
considered leaving above.net when I found out that it was being 
forced on me. On the other hand, it hasn't caused us any noticeable 
problems that I know of. Unlike most companies on the web, we list 
our telephone number and postal address on hour home page, so someone 
who was aggrieved by us blocking them would be able to let us know 
fairly easily. We moved from a non-RBL colo site to above.net about 
nine months ago, so anyone who had been able to get to use before but 
couldn't now would have had plenty of time to tell us. So far, 
nothing. The only way I found out about it was hearing the MAPS folk 
talk about above.net.

I also note that, being at above.net hasn't caused that much less 
spam from getting to IMC mailing lists. When we added DULS checking 
to our sendmail setup, the spam dropped noticeably, but we still get 
enough on some mailing lists to elicit complaints.

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--Internet Mail Consortium

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