At 8:07 AM -0700 6/15/2000, Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote:
>At 10:40 PM -0700 6/14/00, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>>above.net has (fairly recently, as far as I can tell),
>
>Russ is right: it has been true for a long time.
Yes, someone from above.net popped in and let me know. It was a
combination of both bigfoot and mailcity getting RBLed that made me
go snoop the network connections -- so at one level, since it took
this long to notice, it's not a big issue. On the other hand, I still
prefer to make this decision for myself. On the other hand, I
support what the RBL is trying to do, even though, on the other,
other hand, they sometimes make mistakes. I just don't want to be one
of those mistakes, especially if it means I can't get through
above.net to find out what's gone on and try to get it resolved.....
And, like Paul, if it's cutting down my spam, I sure don't notice. So
much spam is being relayed from offshore now it's not funny, and
there are so many open relays out there...
>Having said that, I still don't know how I feel about it.
Since it's been around for such a long time without me realizing it
before now, that pretty much means that in practice, it's not a
significant issue, so I won't worry about it, at least for now. I
still think blocking ALL IP is overkill and could create problems,
but at this point, I'll define it as net-neutral and keep an eye on
it.
>Unlike most companies on the web, we list our telephone number and
>postal address on hour home page, so someone who was aggrieved by us
>blocking them would be able to let us know fairly easily.
I do, also, although I'm taking the phone number off. I've just had
too many cold calls recently from people trying to sell me
advertising for my web site, or to have me buy advertising from my
site. I get tired of clueless sales droids, and if there's a
technical problem, someone with half a clue can find out how to get
ahold of me via NIC records.
>I also note that, being at above.net hasn't caused that much less
>spam from getting to IMC mailing lists. When we added DULS checking
>to our sendmail setup, the spam dropped noticeably, but we still get
>enough on some mailing lists to elicit complaints.
DULS? I know I know that acronym, but I'm hitting a blank.
--
Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar
and say 'Man, what are you doing here?'"