On 7/12/01 3:01 PM, "Sharon Tucci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 01:13 AM 7/13/01 +0800, James Lick wrote:
> <SNIP>
>> If you do have non-confirm mailing lists, now might be a good time to
>> move to confirmation though, as non-confirm mailing lists may be as
>> unacceptable as open relays are now within the next couple of years.
>
>
> Thanks for explaining all of this James.
>
> I do have a concern about your last comment --- this is what I have
> been hearing for the past few years now.
And it's not closer to happening. I think the reality is, there's a small
group of people who feel that way, but there's very little support for it
out there. I think the people trying to define "one true way" to run mail
lists are well-meaning but misguided, but given previous arguments on this
list, I hesitate to start that one again, even by accident.
Given that the big mailing list systems have more or less standardized on
other systems, anyone who attempts to force the mailback validation will
find it quite difficult at this point. That horse has left the barn, and
trying to stuff it back in will be a hard fight against people with lots of
lawyers and large numbers of happy subscribers to use as evidence it's not
necessary.
> But
> outside of that, we hear more complaints from end users for the
> lists that we host. We get anywhere from 1-5 people a week who
> call or email us about lists they are having "difficulty" confirming
> subscriptions to and questioning what a "stupid" procedure it is.
> Most months, this is 4 to 20 times the number of spam complaints
> we get :)
My experience as well.
There is no single "right" way to do these things. It depends on the
content, the system, and the audience. What IS important is that it's
well-designed and runs properly, not that it does things any one way.
I used to worry about this happening. I'm now convinced it's very unlikely
to ever be mounted seriously. There'll always be people trying to make it
happen, but I think as long as the system is designed right and the staff is
responsive to requests and problems, that's a lot more important than
holding to any specific ideology on these operations.
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