** Sometime around 13:31 -0500 11/16/01, Nick Simicich sent everyone: >This is clearly an idea whose time has come. > >I'd like to propose the following:
Agreed on all points, comments follow as appropriate... >1. A mailing list be set up of volunteers who would review nominations. I nominate myself as a volunteer. :-) >2. Nominations could be made for users who disrupted mailing lists, >or the operation thereof, either through malice or cluelessness. >This could include such as we have discussed, as well as other >things. The nomination would be up to the list manager. > >3. Nominations would be made through, um, a password protected web >page? An open web page? Given this arrangement, I think an open web page -- at least initially. If it becomes a popular site for Clueless List Managers, petty turf wars, or the like, we can always put a password on the page. >Nominators would assert that they had operational or editorial >responsibility for a mailing list and would have to provide an >example. This could include such things as submitting spam >complaints to unsubscribe, posting tests, making specious free >speech arguments, and the like. > >4. The nominations would be converted to e-mail, which would be >then evaluated by the list of volunteers who would be on the mailing >list. We could do this pretty easily via Lyris. I can donate a site on my server for this purpose. Or see below... >5. If the majority of voters voted to approve the nomination, then >it would be "published". > >6. Access to the published list would be by request and nomination. >The same "cabal" (TINC) >of volunteers who approve nominations for the list would also >approve access. However, it would be permitted for a nominee to tell >a user why they were being rejected, including revealing the >nomination. > >7. It needs a name. Something obvious like "clueless luser list" appeals. Richard Rognlie came up with "LUSER": Lame User Systemic Eradication Repository I have to admit, it has a certain historic appeal to it. >8. The cabal who put people on the list would also have to hear >appeals. It could be amusing. Hence why I want to play. >I'm willing to host it. Terrific. Depending on the technical requirements, note that I'm also willing to host it on my Lyris server; I can set up a site devoted to this purpose. But if you're willing to host it, that's great. >Should we discuss the mechanism here or should I set up a list to >discuss the mechanism on (which would turn into the nomination and >appeal list). I think a list to discuss it is an excellent idea. Sign me up. Here's my subscription confirmation: [OK] Spam complaint to be filed later. ;-) >Once we describe the mechanism, I will implement it. I will be >willing to include various means of access, which could include DNS, >web page, and so forth. Same here. Implementation is the toughest part for me, at least in the near term -- but I (too) would be happy to donate DNS, web, list server, etc. And I'd also be willing to purchase the domain; one more domain won't make much of a difference here. <g> __________________________________________________________________________ Vince Sabio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
