n short, we can't techno fix it, so live with it, is this a accurate summation of your position?
J C Lawrence wrote: > > On Sun, 19 May 2002 23:14:46 -0400 > kirk Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Amy Stinson wrote: > > > This last may have some promise. Bandwidth charges for email, with a > > monthly allowance, would be a step in teh right direction. > > Enforced by whom, especially given the fact that it would be a > significant marketing advantage and value add to sell your > service/accounts as NOT under those constraints? > > > No, it is not. More use should equal more cost. > > More use of what? Of whose resources? That's the basic model and > fallacy of the micro-payments model. I already pay for my hosting and > bandwidth. I don't pay for yours, and yet I spend your $$ freely (and > uncontrollably) by sending you IP packets. The fallacy states that I > should/must have value accounting for that so that costs can be > equitably shared. The problem is that the primary value being spent is > not system resources or bandwidth (which at that level are so trivial as > to be uncountable), but human time/effort on the resulting communication > and the results it engenders. > > > A national do not spam email list? Hmmm, I like the flavor, let's do > > it. We can set up a site, anyone can go there, place their email on > > the list, and we let merchants and advertising firms download that > > list for free, off the web. Anyone want to purchase a domain name for > > the cause? > > Thanks. You've just helped build my offshore SPAMmer business model. I > now have a pre-collected largely pre-verified database of known good > email addresses. > > I would argue that SPAM is inherently and irreducibly unhandleable in > any central fashion. It can't be done. It has to and can only be done > at the edge. There are several ways of getting there, all requiring > significant threshold deployment effects (I rather like broad PKI > deployment-based systems, but that's for other reasons), but they are > all quite doable and quite familiar to people who've spent time in that > space. The problem is that they all require broad public deployments of > an edge technology prior to the system being enabled, and well, that's a > cart and horse problem. > > -- > J C Lawrence > ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? > http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- end Respectfully, Kirk D Bailey +---------------------"Thou Art Free." -Eris----------------------+ | http://www.howlermonkey.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.tinylist.org +--------+ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +------------------Thinking| NORMAL |Thinking---------------------+ +--------+
